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Does this consitute a conterfeit item on EBay?

triathlete

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Here's the story:

Seller worked for a manufacturer that had a contract to produce goods for a luxury label.

Seller kept a stock of excess inventory back from the luxury label client (or manufactured extra stock), and is now selling these as "Brand X," with "Brand X" label on ebay.

Counterfeit or not?

Will EBay pull the items?
 
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Here's the story:
Seller worked for a manufacturer that had a contract to produce goods for a luxury label.
Seller kept a stock of excess inventory back from the luxury label client (or manufactured extra stock), and is now selling these as "Brand X," with "Brand X" label on ebay.


Yeh I'm sure that happens, A Chinese contractor making handbags or something for Dunhill, Gucci or whatever lux company. Unauthorised second run production, selling them out back doors. However you might find that they've used plastic and not leather, polyester and not silk, glass and not diamonds, brass and not gold.....or with counterfeit cigarettes, rat **** and not tobacco.

What factory is best equipped to make convincing counterfeits? A factory that's already tooled to make the real mccoy.

This is interesting reading and quite informative..
http://books.google.com.hk/books?id...Qepzr2oDw&ved=0CFoQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q&f=false
The Economics of Counterfeit Trade.

"Factories in the Philippines or China that produce licensed manufactured goods may run unauthorized second shifts with shoddy components."

Counterfeit or not?

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Will EBay pull the items?


I don't think Ebay really cares or can do much about it, they still get the vendor's listing fees and there's just so many lots on there (millions), they can't possibly check it all. If someone actually reports a counterfeit item, they'll probably pull it. Put it this way, I wouldn't buy a Rolex watch from Ebay.
 
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Common enough, maybe surplus stock certainly not counterefit. How much do you make at it?
 

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Unauthorised second run production, selling them out back doors. However you might find that they've used plastic and not leather, polyester and not silk, glass and not diamonds, brass and not gold.....or with counterfeit cigarettes, rat **** and not tobacco.
What factory is best equipped to make convincing counterfeits? A factory that's already tooled to make the real mccoy.
"Factories in the Philippines or China that produce licensed manufactured goods may run unauthorized second shifts with shoddy components."
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Why even bother with shoddy components. Just continue making them to full label specs and make a fortune with no risk of being detected as a fake because it isn't. It's not like most labels are using extreme, or noble rare materials. The only labels using top end components/skins do so in their own shops or ateliers like Hermes etc. If you are subcontracting to China the specs are certainly run of the mill and readily available IN CHINA
 

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Can someone send me a link?:embar:
 

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Why even bother with shoddy components. Just continue making them to full label specs and make a fortune with no risk of being detected as a fake because it isn't. It's not like most labels are using extreme, or noble rare materials. The only labels using top end components/skins do so in their own shops or ateliers like Hermes etc. If you are subcontracting to China the specs are certainly run of the mill and readily available IN CHINA
My guess is that the problem with this approach is that there is no good outlet for these goods. You can't exactly sell them out of Saks. Since they are going to get sold in an alley somewhere anyway, they might as well just use the cheaper components.
 

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