Point somewhat well made Achilles. At least to the point that I apparently offended you, which was not my intention. For that I apologize. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion. I whole heartedly agree. But if they wish to state their opinion in a public forum they might do well to be prepared to discuss it further - as it is possible that their opinion might not hold up well under closer scrutiny. Based on my personal observation of the world I logically have every reason to believe that my presumption about the poster's exposure to the world is probably accurate - even though I don't know him at all. Although, as I've already said - he should please feel free to let me know if I am mistaken. But here's the deal guys - based on real life experience. I travel the world and spend plenty of time in the company of the world's billionaires, middle eastern oil sheiks, and various celebutants. Now, just in case you think I'm being pretentious let me also make it clear that I'm not one of them - I'm just the hired help who happens to be on hand to design their homes, private jets, executive office suites and yachts - and in the process I hang out in their world quite a bit. These people, young and old alike, pay my firm literally millions of dollars to offer them our opinions on matters of TASTE. I can promise you that the world over those men who have power, money, class and who aspire to dress well DO NOT WEAR BROWN SHOES to social events such as evening weddings, cocktail parties, or dinners out after dark which require a suit. I just don't actually see it happening anywhere but occasionally on the foot of a celebrity in the US or sometimes a fashionista in Italy. And in that case it's not some run of the mill brown shoe - it's a STATEMENT shoe. Sorry to burst ya'lls bubble here. But that's my eye witness account of how it's currently done around the world by those at the top of the social heap who consider themselves well dressed. Perhaps it will change at some point in the future - but for the moment black shoes are still the symbol of well dressed after dark in dressy settings. So, based on my personal observations, even though I don't imagine the poster to whom I was responding will have the courage to admit that my assumption about his world view is indeed correct, I am nearly 100% certain that it is. It's perfectly cool for you to wear whatever you want - hell - wear purple shoes with green stripes and pink polka dots if you want. There is no official enforcement agency for what is right or wrong. Just don't fool yourself into thinking you're going to impress everyone with them if you do. One man's treasure is another man's trash. And bear in mind that this thread started out as a question about what is considered appropriate - not what is considered 'cool'. The point of any conversation about what is 'proper' in clothing is to help us all understand what we are communicating to others with our clothes - thus it''s important to understand how other's perceive our message. Once that is understood then by all means make your own choices. To me your brown shoes with dark suits after dark communicate either a total lack of sophistication or a big 'ol FU to the world. To some of you my black shoes apparently mean 'old fuddy duddy'. That's life guys!