Does anyone get mocked for over-dressing at work?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by NeedStyleHelp, Jul 24, 2013.

  1. VinnyMac

    VinnyMac Senior member

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    Yep...like I said...a self-serving rationalization. I had THIS ^^^ very type of response in mind while I was typing my post. Damn, you're predictable.

    If the office was filled with ties (by choice, not by requirement), and someone showed up wearing jeans and a graphic tshirt, you'd have started a thread about that [email protected] guy who didn't get it, but since it's you who's on the outside, you spin it to make it seem like everyone else has it wrong and shouldn't "create a ceiling."
     


  2. Scottyb06

    Scottyb06 Senior member

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    I actually wouldn't recommend wearing a suit in your environment because it seems too many 'levels up' from where everyone else is currently at. The reality is that, at least in many jobs, teamwork and partnering with others is important. As well, many people in the workplace pay attention to things other than your actual competence or ability to partnership. If others perceive you as being 'snobby' there are certain people who will hold on that stigma, including those in higher level positions. My rule of thumb has been to dress one step up and no higher. In my situation, I dress a bit more casually in summer because I'm a bit of a bigger guy and can't take hot weather (nice khakis, button down shirt, and nice Allen Edmonds shoes with a nice matching belt). But, in the fall and winter months I wear a lot of flannel or wool pants and OCBDs with merino wool sweaters. At times I will sometimes wear a tie and/or jacket to go with it (love my camelhair jacket!). While I do get many compliments, I also get a roughly equal amount of, "Dude - why are you wearing a tie? We all know you - who are you trying to impress?". I can't imagine wearing a suit in my environment.
     


  3. jrd617

    jrd617 Senior member

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    OJFC, just get over yourself and wear slacks and a shirt. Maybe an odd jacket every once and awhile.

    You said it yourself: you're a junior level employee working in a very casual office.

    If you want to wear a suit everyday, go find a different line of work/more formal office (law, banking, etc.)
     
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  4. Calder

    Calder Senior member

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    There is an old adage which should be remembered in these circumstances;

    "Dress for the job you want to have, not for the job you already have."
     


  5. NeedStyleHelp

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    Thanks for the advice, that is what I currently am trying to do; fingers crossed!
     


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  7. jrd617

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    This rule doesn't apply in an office where there is a very low standard of business dress, and people who wear suits are mocked.

    OP should be aiming for one notch above the average: well-ironed slacks and a shirt, and nice shoes.
     


  8. NeedStyleHelp

    NeedStyleHelp Senior member

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    First off, I appreciate the posts. At first, it was more me venting about the matter. Like I said, I do see both sides of the matter and do appreciate the other, but don't necessarily agree in all aspects.

    I'd like to continue with this discourse, it's quite fun, but can we try to keep it more civil?
     


  9. in stitches

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    go full tibor. boom. problem solved.
     


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    I'm actually very apolitical but if a government of a country actually incurred my wrath I assure you they would be very, very sorry they did, in very short order. ;)
     
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  11. allegrokev

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    The office where I work has a very relaxed dress code. I do wear a suit and tie every day. The only people who think I am uptight or snooty are the ones who haven't even taken the time to talk to me properly, despite efforts on my part to initiate conversation to get to know each other. Sorry - who is supposedly uptight and snooty? Anyone who has taken the time has been pleasantly surprised by the fact that I am actually 100% approachable and down to earth.

    So, dress however the hell you want; how other people react will say a lot more about them than the way you dress does about you.
     


  12. P-K-L

    P-K-L Senior member

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    Suit and tie is the standard in my office. No negative comments from colleagues at all - I was only asked twice who my tailor is.
     


  13. jt10000

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    Culture is shared beliefs and actions. If you don't mind being outside the culture, or can handle it, then do so. If it bothers you that you are outside, then don't be outside. Or go to the edge of the culture - dressing slightly nicer but not totally differently.
     


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    Whenever I see debates like these I'm thankful that I'm a creative and can get away with eccentricity because it's expected.
     
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    I once worked with a guy that showed up every day just reeking of booze. If he had been on the elevator before you, you would know it. He nearly got into an altercation with a female coworker. He made disparaging remarks about our Director in a conference room full of colleagues. He began to sleep in his car for hours at a time, before taking the further step of going home to sleep while on the clock. He called our boss a nazi for phoning him at home to see if he was ok and coming back to work. He made inappropriate comments to summer students. He once pulled a bag of pretzels out of the garbage so that he could eat the salt. Another time, he was so messed up that he hit the dirt when a loud truck went by, out of fear it was a terrorist attack. IN CANADA. I could write a book about this guy and never run out of material. Despite all of this (and so much more), even the fact that his position was completely obsolete did not get him fired. No, when he finally left the building, it was his choice.....because he was "sick of this shit".
     


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