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Does age matter?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by demeis, Dec 6, 2004.

  1. Thracozaag

    Thracozaag Senior member

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    Nice freudian slip, heh. koji
     
  2. ROT

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    Why, of all people, I would chooe to quote Adam Ant at this juncture is beyond me. But.... "We don't follow fashions/that'd be a joke. You know we're gonna set them/ set them/so everyone can take note..."

    I learned long ago not to trust my beloved wife with choosing clothing for me. Try as she might, her highly educated mind just doesn't "get" men's clothing. But she freely admits that on our first date she was mightly intrigued by the guy who mixed patterns to such good effect. I was wearing a glen plaid, three-piece suit, herringbone socks, pencil-striped shirt, spotted tie, and patterned pocket square to the best of my recollection. I was 28...... . Oh, did I mention that I'd run out to buy myself a boutonnier before meeting her?

    Find a good tailor and trust yourself to know what looks good on you. The confidence a fine suit will impart sends signals that will blow the dockers and golf-shirted competition clean out of the running.
     
  3. Alexander Kabbaz

    Alexander Kabbaz Senior member

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    heron
    Thank you.
    He wants white and blue because he sees them as unarguably male - and always correct. She wants yellow and pink because she knows that her 'manly' man can carry it off and look great in those colors. He's not so sure about that. She wants white and blue because she sees them as unarguably male - and always correct. He wants yellow and pink because he knows that he can carry off the 'manly man' and look great in those colors. She's not so sure about that (or at least that's what I assumed when she doubled over, laughing so hard she was crying). I can't really go on (I'm laughing too hard remembering some of this absurdity), but you get the drift. Ask her what colors she would like you to wear. Ask her at dinner, after a few glasses of pinot grigio. Remember what she says. Then give her a credit card and send her to Prada. Go to your shirtmaker and tailor alone - and if you want fewer 'honeydo days' and more 'honey let's do' nights, buy a couple of her favorite colors as well. Whoa. Does this post make me sound like a chauvanist, or what? I take it all back. Send her to Prada. Tell her to use her own damn credit card.
     
  4. dandersson

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    LOL. [​IMG]
     
  5. Horace

    Horace Senior member

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    I notice that you're in the US. Here we have, it would appear, an infatuation with youth (in the most superficial sense -- though also in a profound (and I think disturbing) sense too) in a way that I haven't seen in other cultures.

    I don't want to launch a discussion of it here, but I would say that if a suit is conservative and timeless, how can you go wrong, regardless of how old it makes you in the eyes of some?
     
  6. Fabienne

    Fabienne Senior member

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    For what it's worth:

    I bought this dress in the fall and brought it home. My husband said there was "something wrong with the collar". I said: "That's the style, it's a fifties look." But I usually trust his judgement, so I returned the dress. Two weeks ago, I did the sales, and there was the dress, half off. I bought it. Again.

    Merci, mon amour.
     
  7. johnvw

    johnvw Senior member

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    They're...Their...There

    Each of them has a different meaning. It's a pet peeve of mine. Sorry for airing it here... sort of.

    As for suits, if you like how it looks in the mirror, that's a plus. if the girlfiend doesn't like it, that's a minus. My personal strategy is letting my lady friends "veto" my choice, but I will not let them pick anything out in it's stead.

    -Tom


    This should be "its," not "it's." I would not have pointed this out on this thread, but since you were right about the homonyms, I thought you would want to know.
     
  8. johnvw

    johnvw Senior member

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    Tom--Goodness. "It's"?

    Good point--didn't see it before my post.
     
  9. cardguy

    cardguy Senior member

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    Some good examples of "young-looking" window-pane jackets. Doesn't look like there's anything inherently old-mannish about it. I think most would agree that fit is key.

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  10. otacon

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    Connery's James Bond wore glen plaid, for whatever it might be worth.
     
  11. CaesarSTL

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    Does age matter... somewhat yes, but it's not the primary issue at hand here and as others in the thread obviously support there is "forum belief" that it doesn't (more later). I do most certainly agree with the consensus that women are bad to shop with; however, it's hard to get around (and rude) the person buying the suit for you coming along. Also as an aside, I generally find my life to be less of a hassle and more enjoyable if I at least consider the opinion of the person I like to have sex with as well, so while not good for picking things out, since so many do seem so caught up on what is trendy (really big pain in the ass here in Paris), girls' opinions can matter if she really does hate an outfit of yours.

    Now to the main issue, can it look young, or is it always old? No, it's not always old, it's just a suit and the pattern is worn all different ways, and it's how you wear it that makes all the difference. It def isn't as safe or easy as a narrow fitting solid, and in my opinion so far you really don't seem to have the confidence/fit in the rest of your wardrobe/own sense of style to pull it off. Again, just my opinion (def could be wrong...) from your tone and the provided information, as I'm trying to help and I don't view "just wear what you like," while true in theory, to always be the best advice, especially when social lives come into play. Now, should you buy one? Sure, you can but be sure of how you're going to wear it first, and if you already have something in mind show it to your girlfriend as what you just happen to be wearing when you tried it on at the store may not be a very good example. I've seen them look great and very young, I've also seen guys look like douchebags who are trying too hard and don't have a clue.

    Finally, what are your other suits? Any more details on said suits? Where do you wear them/is this suit mainly just for work? Also, I've never been to Rochester,NY, but location matters a lot... not everyone on the forum lives in NY, SF, London, Paris, LA, etc., but a lot of the advice is directed that way (example being the two previously posted pics, at 20 years old, dressing like in those pics could have some really different reactions ranging from people thinking you're super trendy...or...super gay...depending upon where you are and the circles you frequent (are these opinions the most important? no, as others have stated your opinion is, but they do mean something if they make your life hell because you don't pull it off) . Ok, need to stop typing/ranting for now, and maybe drinking too...but hey, it's the weekend [​IMG] Hope something useful came out of this longwinded soap box. Will check back.

    Jared,

    Jared,
     
  12. EZETHATSME

    EZETHATSME Senior member

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    Does age matter... somewhat yes, but it's not the primary issue at hand here and as others in the thread obviously support there is "forum belief" that it doesn't (more later). I do most certainly agree with the consensus that women are bad to shop with; however, it's hard to get around (and rude) the person buying the suit for you coming along. Also as an aside, I generally find my life to be less of a hassle and more enjoyable if I at least consider the opinion of the person I like to have sex with as well, so while not good for picking things out, since so many do seem so caught up on what is trendy (really big pain in the ass here in Paris), girls' opinions can matter if she really does hate an outfit of yours.

    Now to the main issue, can it look young, or is it always old? No, it's not always old, it's just a suit and the pattern is worn all different ways, and it's how you wear it that makes all the difference. It def isn't as safe or easy as a narrow fitting solid, and in my opinion so far you really don't seem to have the confidence/fit in the rest of your wardrobe/own sense of style to pull it off. Again, just my opinion (def could be wrong...) from your tone and the provided information, as I'm trying to help and I don't view "just wear what you like," while true in theory, to always be the best advice, especially when social lives come into play. Now, should you buy one? Sure, you can but be sure of how you're going to wear it first, and if you already have something in mind show it to your girlfriend as what you just happen to be wearing when you tried it on at the store may not be a very good example. I've seen them look great and very young, I've also seen guys look like douchebags who are trying too hard and don't have a clue.

    Finally, what are your other suits? Any more details on said suits? Where do you wear them/is this suit mainly just for work? Also, I've never been to Rochester,NY, but location matters a lot... not everyone on the forum lives in NY, SF, London, Paris, LA, etc., but a lot of the advice is directed that way (example being the two previously posted pics, at 20 years old, dressing like in those pics could have some really different reactions ranging from people thinking you're super trendy...or...super gay...depending upon where you are and the circles you frequent (are these opinions the most important? no, as others have stated your opinion is, but they do mean something if they make your life hell because you don't pull it off) . Ok, need to stop typing/ranting for now, and maybe drinking too...but hey, it's the weekend [​IMG] Hope something useful came out of this longwinded soap box. Will check back.

    Jared,

    Jared,


    tl/dr

    EZ
     
  13. voxsartoria

    voxsartoria Senior member

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    tl/dr

    EZ


    Odds that his post was written wearing only boxers and ankle height socks?

    47%.



    - B
     
  14. ktrp

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    I imagine now that OP is 6 years older, these problems have resolved themselves.
     
  15. EZETHATSME

    EZETHATSME Senior member

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    I imagine now that OP is 6 years older, these problems have resolved themselves.

    [​IMG] Well sheeeeyuuuut... Never even looked at the dates, which is what I get for being drunk all day. Good job performing a resurrection, mates!

    EZ
     

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