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Do You Use Collar Stays?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by jrd617, Jul 30, 2012.

Do you use collar stays in dress shirts?

  1. Yes (metal)

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    29.9%
  2. Yes (mother of pearl / horn, etc)

    6 vote(s)
    6.2%
  3. Yes (default plastic)

    43 vote(s)
    44.3%
  4. No (take them out, let the fusing do all the work on my high end Barba's, Borrelli's, etc)

    19 vote(s)
    19.6%
  1. FlyingMonkey

    FlyingMonkey Senior member

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    The answer is 'it depends' - on the collar and the way the fabric, cut and context seem to dictate. I generally do wear stays (not bothered about the material), but sometimes you want to have some roll or a softer look.
     
  2. JayJay

    JayJay Senior member

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    Yes, plastic stays. I have brass stays, but find the plastic ones to work better.
     
  3. Brendon

    Brendon Senior member

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    If you iron a shirt collar correctly this will give a better result than any collar stay will ever give. Collar stays metal or plastic will not hide a poorly ironed collar and could almost say they are surplus to requirements. This applies to all brands floating collar or fused. I have posted at some stage I think, on how to iron a shirt on some thread. It is all about the inside and the outside of the curve and the correct removal of steam
     
  4. Shirtmaven

    Shirtmaven Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    the clear very flexible stays are for permanent sewn in stays.

    i use basic plastic.
    i find the metal ones to be too hard. and will poke through.

    i have some mop stays inmy shop, but i have never used them myself.

    the most interesting stays i have are from the 60's
    they are cloth covered thin metal stays that are bendable.
    i will try to post a photo of them
     
  5. Holdfast

    Holdfast Senior member

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    I just use the plastic ones; can't see the point of spending money on precious metals on something like this, and don't really think there's any advantage to brass over plastic in terms of appearance.
     
  6. Mariooo

    Mariooo Senior member

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    same here.
     
  7. Fred G. Unn

    Fred G. Unn Senior member

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  9. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I stopped wearing them about a year and a half ago. My shirts are not fused, however.
     
  10. SJTM

    SJTM Active Member

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    I noticed in several fit posts by Mr. Spoopoker that most of his collars have a slight but perfect outward curve to their drape. I have experimented with brass stays, preshaping a pair to a slight curve. I am very pleased with the results ( emulating the look of Mr.S is, I find, usually a good thing).
     
  11. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Get rid of the collar stays. There ya go. Most of his shirts seem to be borrelli, finamore, or Tom Ford.
     
  12. cnyman

    cnyman Active Member

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    just use the thin ones.
     
  13. Brendon

    Brendon Senior member

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    Don't need them, again they will not stop the collar curling under slightly.
    If you or the help press the shirts with a domestic iron. Do the following for cotton shirts regardless of the brand, fused or floating canvas.
    1/ Put the iron on steam cotton. Put the iron on the near end of the collar, hold the far end of the colar, move slowly along the collar, pull the other end of the collar whilst doing this, (don't steam your fingers), Do this twice, stand the iron & turn it off steam,wait about 20 seconds do this again once or twice with less pulling. Turn the collar over and press just in the middle of the collar once quickly & lightly with about half the width of the iron ie use the pointy end and go half way up. put the shirt on the hanger or wear it. The beauty is this takes into account how a shirt is made and if there is unseen dirt on the iron the back of the collar is not seen. For floating canvas a light push at each end of the collar will push fullness slightly back from the edge. This is called the Bds method and is very collar friendly.
     
  14. Fred G. Unn

    Fred G. Unn Senior member

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    I've never had that problem. Their MOP stays are dirt cheap, nicely rounded & polished, and you can get any custom size you want. Don't expect quick shipping though. I've ordered from them twice and I think it took 2-3 months for delivery each time.
     
  15. dancingbear

    dancingbear Senior member

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    I like the weight of brass stays, but have had some issues with tearing. Got a tip a while back. Use the brass stays backwards. The round end will not be as prone to tear the fabric. Haven't had a tear since.
     

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