1. And... we're back. You'll notice that all of your images are back as well, as are our beloved emoticons, including the infamous :foo: We have also worked with our server folks and developers to fix the issues that were slowing down the site.

    There is still work to be done - the images in existing sigs are not yet linked, for example, and we are working on a way to get the images to load faster - which will improve the performance of the site, especially on the pages with a ton of images, and we will continue to work diligently on that and keep you updated.

    Cheers,

    Fok on behalf of the entire Styleforum team
    Dismiss Notice

Do you look down on the way strangers dress?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by FidelCashflow, Sep 21, 2008.

  1. gorgekko

    gorgekko Senior member

    Messages:
    2,121
    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2004
    Location:
    The Dominion of Canada
    I don't care about the prevailing opinion on SF, nor do I look down on people for their dress -- though I used to. Life is too short.
     
    1 person likes this.
  2. R-H

    R-H Senior member

    Messages:
    439
    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2007
    No. However, I can't help but notice when people dress inappropriately for special or certain occasions.

    Exactly.
     
  3. Agnacious

    Agnacious Senior member

    Messages:
    686
    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2008
    I do not look down on people at all. I am though often disappointed when I see someone eating at a restaurant wearing a t-shirt, ball cap or combination, which in Chicago, is just about everywhere.


    Not usually, unless it's actually offensively bad.

    A final level of hell is reserved for those who try to dress well, fail abysmally, but think they are the bee's nipples or whatever. A guy at a party two weeks ago was wearing:

    Black Men's Wearhouse-ish pinstripe orphaned jacket; a pale pink shirt with contrast white FC's and cutaway collar; baggy, faded Express denim; scuffed, crumpled, square-toe bit loafers; a poorly-tied, no-dimple solid red tie; and, like the fetid, rotting, sickly maraschino cherry on a vomited wedding cake, a polyester-looking solid red pocket square.

    I look down on that.


    I find nothing to look down on in this circumstance. The guy thought he looked good and made an effort. Your attitude seems to be that if someone doesn't make an effort, you'll be good enough not to judge them. But, if they do, they had better meet your standards (du jour) or else you will look down on them.

    Does it occur to you there may have been someone at that party dressed fully bespoke, mocking those (including you) that did not meet his sartorial standards, because according to your theory, that would be acceptable.
     
  4. globetrotter

    globetrotter Senior member

    Messages:
    20,605
    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2004
    Location:
    greater chicago
    No.

    you are a better man than me, my friend.

    the other day I saw a guy in a gray suit and red satin shirt, and a maroon tie. my first thought was something along the lines of "idiot". of course, I wouldn't consider him a bad person or anything, but my first thought was to look down on him.


    so, yeah, sometimes I do get a reaction where I look down on people for how they dress.
     
  5. SoCal2NYC

    SoCal2NYC Senior member

    Messages:
    12,204
    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2007
    Location:
    Manhattan
    I agree; clothes/style/fashion/whatever are a personal interest and I don't expect everybody to care nearly as much as I do.

    I only put them in their place when they have attitude about what they are wearing.
     
  6. bmulford

    bmulford Senior member

    Messages:
    2,980
    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2007
    Location:
    best coast
    I'd like to think SF has made me more open minded, not less. But I do notice when people are dressed inappropriately -- or, more specifically, failed to make any effort to dress appropriately.

    My feelings exactly.
     
  7. lermontov

    lermontov Senior member

    Messages:
    112
    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2008
    Location:
    Australia
    Yes I do. I believe that it is a sign of moral turpitude. I also wish that ugly people would wear masks.
     
  8. acidboy

    acidboy Senior member

    Messages:
    21,170
    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2006
    I never thought that I'm better than others because they dress like shit. But still there are days when you see somebody and you say to yourself, what the hell?!
     
  9. R-H

    R-H Senior member

    Messages:
    439
    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2007
  10. trajan

    trajan Senior member

    Messages:
    369
    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2006
    Location:
    NY, NY
    In the last couple of years, beside reading SF every day, I've also payed closed attention to how people dress. What I gained was an inside about people background by just looking at their clothes. It's quite accurate most of the time. The NYC diversity certainly helped.

    Do I look down on people? Not usually. Although sometimes, it's clear when people are wearing inappropriate clothes, most of the times culturally, i.e., I don't like it when people who should know better, don't know how to dress.

    --trajan
     
  11. JLibourel

    JLibourel Senior member

    Messages:
    8,602
    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2004
    I, quite frankly, do despise, in the literal sense, all people who dress badly. I think it shows a lack of respect for themselves, for the rest of humanity and the world at large. Thus I think there is an element of moral turpidute in this--spitting in the face of God and man alike!

    I have more regard for the chap in the MW jacket, pink shirt, et al. because at least he was making a genuine (if misguided and ill-informed) effort to turn himself out well.
     
  12. LabelKing

    LabelKing Senior member

    Messages:
    25,745
    Joined:
    May 24, 2002
    Location:
    Constantinople
    I can't help but feel a sense of superciliousness in regards to how most people dress.
     
  13. Lel

    Lel Senior member

    Messages:
    3,386
    Joined:
    May 19, 2007
    A guy at a party two weeks ago was wearing:

    Black Men's Wearhouse-ish pinstripe orphaned jacket; a pale pink shirt with contrast white FC's and cutaway collar; baggy, faded Express denim; scuffed, crumpled, square-toe bit loafers; a poorly-tied, no-dimple solid red tie; and, like the fetid, rotting, sickly maraschino cherry on a vomited wedding cake, a polyester-looking solid red pocket square.

    I look down on that.


    ^And the biggest problem is that probably the guy thought he looked REALLY good.

    No the biggest problem is that the GIRLS probably thought he looked really good.
     
  14. J Simulcik

    J Simulcik Senior member

    Messages:
    167
    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2008
    Location:
    An autogyro en route to the Prussian consulate in
    I don't like that I do, but I do. Dressing well, by whatever standards, shows respect to those around you. It's the same as learning to speak correctly. These are the qualities that others can observe about you, so you should work to improve them. SF, AAAC, LL, et. al. are free. People damn sure watch enough television to see examples that, while not to SF standard, are a step in the right direction. And when everyone is dressing more correctly, the standards would go up within the society. The sad truth is that you can't make someone care. Whether they're just covering their body with whatever, or dressing to impress their friends, nobody can tell them different until they decide to make an effort.
     
  15. HermesGuy

    HermesGuy Senior member

    Messages:
    108
    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2008
    There are always going to be the "haves" and the "have nots", this is the way our society is structured. This can also be said for people with style. When I see someone who is badly dressed I always just think that this person is making it easier for me to get ahead in life.
     
  16. forsbergacct2000

    forsbergacct2000 Senior member

    Messages:
    807
    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2008
    Location:
    Lansing, MI
    I don't worry too much about how others dress. I can't control it. I wish people would dress better for funerals, weddings, etc. but if that's the worst problem in your life, you have a pretty good life.
     
  17. stamp0102

    stamp0102 Senior member

    Messages:
    392
    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2007
    No the biggest problem is that the GIRLS probably thought he looked really good.

    +1,000,000 - I just HATE that

    When I see someone who is badly dressed I always just think that this person is making it easier for me to get ahead in life.

    Hear, hear!

    I wouldn't say I look down on people because who am I to say why the person is dressing the way they are dressing. On the other hand, if I know the person and the circumstances, that is a different story. If I know they are capable of dressing appropriately and choose to dress like a schmuck, then I might look down a bit. A guy I know gets excited whenever he gets a new pair of sketchers or kenneth coles. I just can't help but cringe every time.

    Then again, I also look up to people A LOT when they are dressed well. Be it quality or fit or style, if they hit any aspect right on the head, I can't help but notice. When I see a well fitted suit, ticket pocket, PS, spread collar, etc. I admire their good taste, and if the opportunity presents itself, I tell them such.

    What annoys me the most is when I am wearing one of my old beater Mens Wearhouse-esque suits and plasticy Bostonian shoes cause I know there is gonna be alcohol all over me by the end of the night and someone compliments on how good I look. I know I look like the kind of person SFers usually make fun of and I find it ridiculous that people make positive comments about that.
     
  18. Eagle

    Eagle Senior member

    Messages:
    468
    Joined:
    May 28, 2008
    Outside of these fora, I can't say I really dwell on it that much. However, I do make it a point to present myself, as well as possible! What others do, really is up to them...though, they just might follow my lead! [​IMG]
     
  19. philosophe

    philosophe Senior member

    Messages:
    4,892
    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2004
    I don't look down on people who dress poorly. I wish they'd improve, but, in the end, clothing is not the main issue in life.

    I definitely notice people who dress well and people who make an effort to look presentable and appropriate, no matter what price point their clothing reflects. And I really notice style.
     
  20. otc

    otc Senior member

    Messages:
    14,206
    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2008
    These days, with a few more years under my belt, I realize that everyone chooses to dress the way they do (except kids and prisoners), and that just because someone's wearing a suit it doesn't make them a tool. I realize now that my prejudice was the result of societal customs and not because of the person themselves.

    I agree with this sentiment. I'm graduating college this spring and am currently working in a business casual environment (and before that, a *very* small anything goes deal). I used to always think about wanting a job where I wouldnt have to wear a suit and tie (probably more averse to the tie than to the idea of a jacket and pants that are the same fabric)...now I am almost wishing this place hadnt gone business casual 10 years ago.

    I'm glad I don't have to wear a suit since I don't currently have the wardrobe or the salary to support daily wearing but I happen to be wearing one today just because I felt like it. I might blame some of it on Barney Stinson (Neil Patrick Harris' character on How I Met Your Mother) for showing me that the suit can be a joyful thing.

    EDIT: that being said, I *DO* look down on anyone who wears a hat indoors--especially baseball caps in a classroom. It's slobby and their mothers should have taught them better.
     

Share This Page

Styleforum is proudly sponsored by