I know some southern and northern chinese styles (no belt rankings) and got 2nd degree black belt in tae kwon do... also limited muay thai.. I dont like grappling stuff. I learn martial arts for the fun / health of it, not to knock people out. it's really too bad you don't like "grappling stuff." it's such a beautiful and effective art. it's something you can do even when you are very old which i can't say about tae kwon do (if you've ever seen really old TKD people, they can barely kick over their waist--even if they were awesome when they were younger). i train for fun and health too. sparring in boxing and muay thai is always done with 16 oz gloves and mouthguard, usually with headgear. when grappling, everyone uses control and tapping keeps people from getting hurt. there is another aspect that exists in bjj. rolling with a skilled grappler is really like a chess game. no other martial art has such a deep mental/tactical aspect. if you're doing traditional asian styles because you like the cultural aspect then fine, but anyone who says they do it for self-defense is misleading themself.