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Do you add shoe taps to rubber soles?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by dieselman89, Sep 18, 2011.

  1. dieselman89

    dieselman89 Senior member

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    What are the thoughts about adding a shoe tap to rubber soled shoes? Does this help improve the longevity of the sole? Or is it useless?


    I walk a little weird and often times by soles have a slant since I walk weighted one side more than the other.
     
  2. GBR

    GBR Senior member

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    No: I have never seen a need although if you have an awkward/odd gait then maybe they are a good idea.
     
  3. AlexE

    AlexE Senior member

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    Aren't toe taps usually fixed to the soles with small nails? I have a hard time seeing this construction to work well with rubber soles. I am also not sure if gluing metal to a rubber sole will be very sturdy. So you should first talk to a coppler if this is possible at all.
     
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  4. dieselman89

    dieselman89 Senior member

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    Hmmm from the shoes I have, they are generally nailed, I am wondering though if its a good idea to make this move with my brand new AE rubber soled shoes.
     
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    fritzl Senior member

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    talk to your cobbler. there cannot go anything wrong, imo.
     
  6. dieselman89

    dieselman89 Senior member

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    what do you mean by cobbler?
     
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    Agatha Crusty Senior member

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    Cobbler...the person whose business it is to repair, resole, and possibly make shoes.
     
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    I don't see why you wouldn't if you need them. I wear through the heel of my shoes on all of my shoes on the rear right part. It's cheaper to replace a tap then it is a heel.
     
  9. dieselman89

    dieselman89 Senior member

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    What do you generally do with your rubber soled shoes? Sounds like we have the same issue and orthotics are too expensive... Plus I just bought these...
     
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  10. Winston S.

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    I have a pair of rubber soled chukkas and had some rubber taps added to the heel of those also. Otherwise I don't have too many other rubber soled shoes. Planning on getting some Dianite dress shoes when I see some and plan on putting rubber taps on those also. I think I draw the line at putting them on my Chuck Taylors though...
     
  11. Dewey

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    If the sole is solid rubber, a tap can be glued on, but it's likely to come off after repeatedly getting wet.

    If it's dainite over leather, a tap can be nailed in. There's a little nail with a corkscrew tip that does the job. The nail grips not the dainite but the leather underneath it. Good-quality dainite soles are made this way. My trickers, C&J, AS, etc., all have dainite over leather. The dainite sole is a kind of double sole in other words, instead of leather over leather, it's dainite over leather.

    I wear the dainite-soled shoes a little while. If the wear is uneven, say too heavy on the tip or on the heel, I get the taps banged on. The shoe guy knows exactly where to put them because they are already worn.
     
  12. dieselman89

    dieselman89 Senior member

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    It seems like AE uses dainite style soles with the circles on the soles for a few of their models. Even though they say Goodyear..
     
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  13. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    Cobblers do not make shoes.
     
  14. Agatha Crusty

    Agatha Crusty Senior member

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    Yes. I know they are officially 'Cordwainers', but since bespoke shoe/boot-making became a much smaller industry lots of those Cordwainers and apprentices ended up mending more shoes than making them - like the old Turkish man who fixed my father's shoes.

    This is why I put "...'possibly' make shoes".
     
  15. Archy

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    i bought a few dozen plastic taps on ebay and put them on everything I can, otherwise I can round a heel edge in a few wearings.

    I found that Plumbers Goop works well on clean rubber heels without nails. Never had one fall off. I clean the heel with alcohol or naptha before gluing.

    Now I am using Barge contact cement on rubber and combo heels, mainly for dress shoes. I use tacks when I can but the glue alone seems to hold. The taps I have are of the Peel and Stick variety-- "Guard" brand.

    Jury is still out on the Barge cement...lets see what cold and wet does this winter. Plumbers Goop is well tested to my satisfaction.
     
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  16. dieselman89

    dieselman89 Senior member

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    Yes that my problem! I round them out and I've only worn them 2-3 times. It only cost $5-$10 at my local shoe man. I will request no nails, using glue some type of stick sounds like a great idea.

    nice profile pic btw
     
  17. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    Not all...in fact, by definition, none...shoe repairmen/cobblers make shoes.

    But all cordwainers repair shoes...if only the ones they make.

    Of course no one wants to repair shoes if they could be making them. Which, I suspect, is why Traditional techniques evolved the way they did--to forestall having to repair a shoe for as long as possible, without ruining the basic structure in the meantime.
     
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    What type of soles exactly? I have the Lombards with the executive sole and it's wearing down unexpectedly fast.
     
  19. dieselman89

    dieselman89 Senior member

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    Just got taps added to my rubber soled AE. Cobbler said a glue type app. would work but would not last very long.
     
  20. dieselman89

    dieselman89 Senior member

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    I have the Van Ness and the back soles wore down very quickly. I chose to get taps. I am very surprised...
     

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