1. And... we're back. You'll notice that all of your images are back as well, as are our beloved emoticons, including the infamous :foo: We have also worked with our server folks and developers to fix the issues that were slowing down the site.

    There is still work to be done - the images in existing sigs are not yet linked, for example, and we are working on a way to get the images to load faster - which will improve the performance of the site, especially on the pages with a ton of images, and we will continue to work diligently on that and keep you updated.

    Cheers,

    Fok on behalf of the entire Styleforum team
    Dismiss Notice

Do no break/little break pants look "short" to the casual observer?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by jrd617, Mar 11, 2011.

  1. jrd617

    jrd617 Senior member

    Messages:
    14,547
    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2009
    In the non-iGent world, do no break slacks look Pee Wee Herman-esque?

    Recently, I had someone who dresses rather poorly comment that my suit pants were "too short." The thing is, I have my tailor do no break + 0.5 inches, so this shouldn't look odd in the slightest. A far cry from this kind of Thom Browne shit:

    [​IMG]



    Are most people accustomed to seeing fabric bunching at the bottom of pants?

    Discuss.
     
  2. TRINI

    TRINI Senior member

    Messages:
    9,027
    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2006
    Are most people accustomed to seeing fabric bunching at the bottom of pants?

    Discuss.


    Yes.
     
  3. acecow

    acecow Senior member

    Messages:
    4,135
    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2009
    Location:
    Not Manhattan, unfortunately
    I've gotten several compliments on my no-break trousers. However, in my retarded opinion, fuller pants suffer from the same problem as shirts with lower armpits. When bending the knee, fuller-cut pants ride up higher, while slimmer pants stay on the shoe. I'm not sure why that happens and if it happens to anyone but me at all.

    To answer your question: a casual observer won't think your pants are too short if they cover the socks completely.
     
  4. jrd617

    jrd617 Senior member

    Messages:
    14,547
    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2009
    Manton: I'd be interested in hearing your opinion since you wrote a whole book on conservative business dress. Are people, in effect, doing themselves a disservice by going no-break? Does it look good to an iGent and bad to the rest of the world?
     
  5. Don Carlos

    Don Carlos Senior member

    Messages:
    7,527
    Joined:
    May 15, 2009
    Many casual observers will think no-break pants are too short and are even incorrectly so. Furthermore, most will have strong preferences for black shoes over brown shoes (especially women), especially when paired with blue or grey.

    iGent style and Great Unwashed style are fairly uncorrelated.
     
  6. Ianiceman

    Ianiceman Senior member

    Messages:
    2,651
    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2010
    Location:
    Keyboard War Room
    Just look around the next time you're at a busy public place like a mall, restaurant, airport etc. and notice how many people have their strides dragging along the floor. I'm not a proponent of the Thom Brown no break but every time I buy trousers I have to tell the on site alterations people I don't want the hems touching the heels of my shoes and ideally about half way between the top of the backstrap and the top of the heel.
     
  7. TheEdwardian

    TheEdwardian Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    69
    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2007
    Is it not something to with the angle of cuff cut?

    My alterations guy (and previously my mum) always cut them with a strong drop to the heel (called a regimental back, I think), so they fall to the top of the shoe heel at the rear and have a half inch break at the front. My tailor says the way to do it is when bestockinged at fitting time, you make the back touch the floor, and pin the front to give your preferred break.

    It looks clean without looking like you are wearing hoistys. You avoid both iGentry and looking like a (different sort of) dickhead, because you are conservatively dressed. The trick of CBD is surely to avoid drawing attention. Short trousers are a statement. So are ankle puddles. If it's done well, no one will notice the detail unless they look, they will take away the overall impression. Same principle of not wearing a Huntsman with a disney tie.
     
  8. bjornb17

    bjornb17 Senior member

    Messages:
    732
    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2010
    In the non-iGent world, do no break slacks look Pee Wee Herman-esque?

    Recently, I had someone who dresses rather poorly comment that my suit pants were "too short." The thing is, I have my tailor do no break + 0.5 inches, so this shouldn't look odd in the slightest. A far cry from this kind of Thom Browne shit:

    [​IMG]



    Are most people accustomed to seeing fabric bunching at the bottom of pants?

    Discuss.


    There is a difference between little/no break and being a full 3 inches too short, which is what is shown in the pic.
     
  9. jrd617

    jrd617 Senior member

    Messages:
    14,547
    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2009
    There is a difference between little/no break and being a full 3 inches too short, which is what is shown in the pic.
    Correct. But certain people with less discerning eyes seem to believe that no break trousers are too short. I'd characterize no break trousers as fine, but Thom Browne ones as far too short.
     
  10. A Y

    A Y Senior member

    Messages:
    5,592
    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2006
    Location:
    Southern California
    I like the minimal break, but they can look short especially as you're walking since the pants get pulled up by your legs.

    --Andre
     
  11. jrd617

    jrd617 Senior member

    Messages:
    14,547
    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2009
    If it's good enough for the President, I say to hell with the nay-sayers:

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
  12. Requiem

    Requiem Senior member

    Messages:
    142
    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2009
    I've always worn trousers with no break and, although I think some people find it vaguely strange, I expect them to notice the care I put on my overall look and understand the trousers lenght as a style option.
    However, I think most untrained eyes don't go much further than noticing the tie's colours...
     
  13. Requiem

    Requiem Senior member

    Messages:
    142
    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2009
    [​IMG]


    Hobbit (with really furry feet)
     
  14. mktitsworth

    mktitsworth Senior member

    Messages:
    2,834
    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2011
    Location:
    Dallas, TX
    I know that prior to buying my first real suit, I thought the same thing. I feel more enlightened now.

    As to why most people do it... I know I did it because that's how I thought pants should fit in the early 00s, and that's where, up until recently, most of my thoughts on this stuff came from.
     

Share This Page

Styleforum is proudly sponsored by