# Do high armholes necessarily mean narrower armholes?

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Yes

#### Blackhood

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The only way for it to not mean narrower holes is if the shoulder was somehow higher. All arm holes finish at the shoulder, so if you start closer to the top of the jacket, you're obviously going to have smaller holes.

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#### JamesX

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physics would dictate the answer to be yes.

It doesn't mean the narrower armhole should be pinching your armpit.

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#### NORE

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Probably because you could have a lower hole that was narrower front to back.
Like 0 as opposed to o

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#### Sator

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Originally Posted by merkur
Hmm, according to this Despos post (quoted above), high armholes does not necessarily = narrower armhole

Chris is 100% correct. You can set the armscye depth higher and even widen the armscye width if you want.

#### Despos

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If you can find another post from me it will explain what creates movement is first where the front neck point is located and then the line of shoulder and how well it corresponds to your shoulder. Width of armhole. How well the sleeve, height, width, shape, is matched to the armhole shape. These factors create freedom of movement. Depth/height of armhole is 4th or 5th on my list. High armholes will not matter if the other items are not right. When all the other factors are correct then a high armhole helps.

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#### Despos

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Do you mean sloping shoulders when you say dropped shoulders or having one low shoulder?

The issue with sloped shoulders is the line of the jacket shoulder is straighter/higher than your shoulder line. Having the shoulder slope of the jacket and your shoulder slope as parallel as possible is the ideal and more important to a proper fit and comfort than the height/depth of the armhole.

#### a tailor

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Originally Posted by merkur
How do high armholes work with dropped shoulders? If one has a dropped shoulder, would a lower (wider) armhole paradoxically provide a better fit?

if you have one shoulder lower than the other then go to stylefourm searchnet and ask for "how do they cut a low shoulder" dated 1-5-2011.

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