Do collars shrink?

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  1. 5thave

    5thave Active Member

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    I recently bought a non iron shirt from Nordstroms and found the collar (point collar) to be too long. I was wondering do collars shrink in the wash?
     
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    The point length will not shrink noticeably. The size around your neck will.
     
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    K - out of curiosity, how do you get a proper fit, then, on your shirts? I don't see how a fitting for a bespoke shirt would work when the shirt the customer is wearing isn't really what it's going to fit like oin 6th months. Does it just take a lot of experience to foresee that shrinkage?

    On a personal note, I got a MTM shirt recently. The collar was a bit big and at my fitting (after one laundering) - there was a slight ripple on the inner part of the neck, if you know what I mean. The maker has taken the shirt back to tighten the collar in consideration of that ripple. I also order 6 more. I am afraid now that the collars, in the long run, will be too small.
     
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    anyone? will my necks be too small if they fit me from the get go without washing?
     
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    Manton RINO Dubiously Honored

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    Cloth can be shrunk before the shirt is cut and sewn. This works better, and is more reliable, but it's also more time consuming and expensive. Or shirtmakers can build in the "right" amount of excess measurement to account for shrinkage later. The problem is, How much is right? Not all cloth -- not even all cloths of one type -- shrink exactly the same amount every time.

    With most RTW shirts, the cloth is not pre-shrunk. The collar should therefore be at least 1/2" too big before it is washed the first time.
     
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    Thought I cannot speak for other makers, 1% shrinkage allowance is left in our patterns. All of the cloth we use either shrinks 1% or is pre-treated by us in such a manner as to leave 1% shrinkage remaining. When we do our fittings, every sample shirt goes through a rigorous "torture" process of (multiple) hot washing and hot drying to insure that all shrinkage is removed before the client tries on the shirt. Thus, we know that what the final shirts will become after a few washes is what we are actually basing our trials upon.

    Regarding cheaper RTW and MTM, Manton is correct. The standard is to leave an extra 1/2". It is generally a good guideline.
     
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    AK - out of curiosity, how do you get a proper fit, then, on your shirts? I don't see how a fitting for a bespoke shirt would work when the shirt the customer is wearing isn't really what it's going to fit like in 6th months. Does it just take a lot of experience to foresee that shrinkage?
    Thought I cannot speak for other makers, 1% shrinkage allowance is left in our patterns. All of the cloth we use either shrinks 1% or is pre-treated by us in such a manner as to leave 1% shrinkage remaining. When we do our fittings, every sample shirt goes through a rigorous "torture" process of (multiple) hot washing and hot drying to insure that all shrinkage is removed before the client tries on the shirt. Thus, we know that what the final shirts will become after a few washes is what we are actually basing our trials upon. Regarding cheaper RTW and MTM, Manton is correct. The standard is to leave an extra 1/2". It is generally a good guideline.
    Thanks, your process sounds good. I hope my MTM works out.
     

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