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Salad

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Don't know if this is the right place for history pieces, but I really enjoyed this article https://www.sfgate.com/sfhistory/amp/A-luxury-San-Francisco-suitmaker-that-inspired-a-16133069.php?__twitter_impression=true
I've heard a lot about the community of workers and their hardships with labor relations and straight up racist attacks.
I love the subversive subtext of their style. You have broke farmworkers far from home sending back pictures of themselves dripped in the latest to show they made it but also signaling to everyone here that we maybe field hands but we stay fresh...deal with it.
My father's uncle was one of these workers. He worked in the grape fields in Santa Maria and Delano, CA. He worked his way up and out of the fields and later in life he worked at a bakery in SF. I remember visiting him when I was a kid and wandering around his old victorian in what's now the Sunnydale neighborhood of SF. From farm worker to SF home owner would be a helluva trajectory nowadays.
 

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have you guys check out CM lately, doesn't look like jcrew to me (it was definitely more "preppy and menswear" 5+ years ago)

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Past few seasons of Club Monaco have been good. Certainly better value than J.Crew, which is perhaps part of the reason J.Crew failed in Canada.
 

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Speaking of jcrew, this is something.

very interesting. to me, it immediately makes J.Crew interesting and relevant again, but is that influence shared by normal people who go to J.Crew to buy chinos and basics or does it only excite people who are into fashion and know of Noah/Supreme?
 

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Beyond design and styling, I’m curious if Babenzien’s ethical sourcing approach at Noah will transfer to his role at J Crew. Will he change what J Crew stands for, and not just the cuts and prints?
 

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Beyond design and styling, I’m curious if Babenzien’s ethical sourcing approach at Noah will transfer to his role at J Crew. Will he change what J Crew stands for, and not just the cuts and prints?
seems nearly impossible to source/manufacture ethically at their price point
 

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seems nearly impossible to source/manufacture ethically at their price point
They don’t have to keep the price point.
They can split collections into higher end label and not.
They can reinvent J Crew to be something else than the current positioning and price point.

I’m curious how he’ll be able to reconcile his ethical sourcing POV and years of manifestos with NOT doing any of that. That’s going to be hard.
 

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They don’t have to keep the price point.
They can split collections into higher end label and not.
They can reinvent J Crew to be something else than the current positioning and price point.

I’m curious how he’ll be able to reconcile his ethical sourcing POV and years of manifestos with NOT doing any of that. That’s going to be hard.
do you think a creative director will really get a say on production practices/pricing in a company as massive as jcrew? i get the feeling this will be for looks only. obviously we'd all like to see jcrew take a stand but im not getting my hopes up.
 

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do you think a creative director will really get a say on production practices/pricing in a company as massive as jcrew? i get the feeling this will be for looks only. obviously we'd all like to see jcrew take a stand but im not getting my hopes up.
i mean jenna lyons and frank muytjens both had a bit of an expensive bend during their tenures there. the wallace and barnes collection was basically created specifically to accommodate that "this is super nice and interesting stuff" space without completely changing all of jcrew mens.
 

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