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Dior Question

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Ahaz, Jul 17, 2006.

  1. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member

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    I like my NS too, but I have some complaints. The front pockets, for one, just piss me off. I also got the one pair of APC on the planet that don't really stretch out much. They have stretched the least out of all my dry denim, I'd say. Something about the rise and fit in the hips just rubs me the wrong way too. I do really like them though, all that stuff just annoys me in a minor way.

    Man, you some skinny ass dudes. I wear a NS 29 antifit, could (some would say should) wear an NS 28, and could (but imo, should not) wear NS in a 27. But NS 25? You guys need to stop buying denim and get yourself some groceries. Or a whole bucket of KFC. Or stop being midgets. Or something [​IMG]

    And the pockets, mid-low rise, and straight down fit at the hips are some of my favorite parts the New Standard. The other thing is the durability. Seriously, APC wear like jeans twice their denim weight.
     
  2. The Grapist

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    Chiming in on my APC love. I tried on both the 21 and 19cm Diors at Saks yesterday in size 28, and the sales clerk commented on how the cures I was wearing looked better than either.

    I'm thinking of getting some Hipsters next and tapering in the leg, so I can get a low rise jean with a taper, for about $260 less than the new Selvedge Diors.
     
  3. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member

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    Chiming in on my APC love. I tried on both the 21 and 19cm Diors at Saks yesterday in size 28, and the sales clerk commented on how the cures I was wearing looked better than either.

    I'm thinking of getting some Hipsters next and tapering in the leg, so I can get a low rise jean with a taper, for about $260 less than the new Selvedge Diors.


    For the price (even if it is $30 higher than it was just 2 years ago [​IMG] ), APC cannot be beat. Unless you can get something on sale, of course, which APC's generally never are.
     
  4. Brian SD

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    Chiming in on my APC love. I tried on both the 21 and 19cm Diors at Saks yesterday in size 28, and the sales clerk commented on how the cures I was wearing looked better than either.

    I'm thinking of getting some Hipsters next and tapering in the leg, so I can get a low rise jean with a taper, for about $260 less than the new Selvedge Diors.


    The newer narrow jeans from APC have a men's and a women's version, correct? Perhaps the women's have a lower rise.
     
  5. chim

    chim Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the advice Chim and Fuuma. I'm googling to try and find some more info, so maybe it's best that I wait. It kinda scares me that you fit into a size 28, since I'm a size or two bigger than you in the waist iirc. I like my NS too, but I have some complaints. The front pockets, for one, just piss me off. I also got the one pair of APC on the planet that don't really stretch out much. They have stretched the least out of all my dry denim, I'd say. Something about the rise and fit in the hips just rubs me the wrong way too. I do really like them though, all that stuff just annoys me in a minor way.
    The size 28 lames are notoriously known for being sized extremely small. I wear a size 25 APC NS and the size 28 lames are harder to button up, for comparison. The dior front pockets are nice and deep though, the APC front pockets are almost non existant. However, I find the NS just a perfect cut; it is very slim with a small taper and just looks fantastic on my body type. I tried the cures and I don't think i was able to pull them off as well because of my 5'8 height; i looked more goofy than svelte. [​IMG] Here's a pretty bad pic of me wearing my sz 25 new standards.
     
  6. The Grapist

    The Grapist Senior member

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    The only difference is now they're going out and saying that there's a men's and women's version, the rise is still proportionally the same. Matter of fact, the Cures I'm wearing right now have an "F" on the back of the tag for "Femme."

    And while I should've given them a few more minutes of wearing, the New Cures were painfully tight on me.
     
  7. Dangydang

    Dangydang Senior member

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    While we're still on the topic of Cures, does anyone know if the old ones are still being produced?
     
  8. The Grapist

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    While we're still on the topic of Cures, does anyone know if the old ones are still being produced?

    Nope, they've got some in store, but for the next season, no more will be made. They will be back in a season or two, however.
     
  9. Ahaz

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    Even though this is now the official APC discussion thread, I did find some 21 cm Japanese Diors. Gonna give those a go, and hope they're tighter than the ones I just returned.

    Wish me luck.
     
  10. cultpop 0217

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    Because I'm an indecisive moron, pretty much.

    The black ones I tried on looked interesting. They were very dark (sort of like asphalt, I guess), but not overdyed -- you could clearly see that the weft (or warp, hell, I don't know) was left white. However, the thign that turned me off was that all the stitching was black. Even the back pockets. And I love the back pocket darts. Still, in retrospect, I should have bought the black 19cm's... and then bought a pair of the Japanese indigo 21cm's.

    Ahaz, my 21cm's fit pretty close to that.

    here's a terrible picture of my 19cm jeans
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    edit: I'm totally hemming and hawing over whether these 19cm's are just too tight, and whether to keep them. If anyone wants a pair of Japanese 19cm Dior jeans in size 32, contact me now [​IMG]



    those look good on you minya
     
  11. Get Smart

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    I agree they do look good in the pic, Minya. If *you* think they're too tight, DAYUMMMM, they must be hella ti-i-ght. I thought you liked your denim that way (?)
     
  12. minya

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    I agree they do look good in the pic, Minya. If *you* think they're too tight, DAYUMMMM, they must be hella ti-i-ght. I thought you liked your denim that way (?)
    haha, I like tight, but not mammal-toe tight. I was mammal-toeing in those 19cm's. I'm gonna give it a few days, see if they stretch out a little bit, but otherwise, I'm gonna stick them on eBay.
     
  13. Ahaz

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    They came in yesterday, but I haven't really had time to wear them yet. Japanese 21 cm in size 28. The fit is really good, but I'm not sure how I feel about the length. I think I'm just not used to jeans being that long, but it might also have something to do with the fact that they look better scrunched up on the 19cm model.

    The hem on these measures 7 3/8 inches, or about 18.75cm. I'm glad I didn't go for the Japanese 19 cm model, because I don't know if I could have handled a hem of ~6.5 inches. The curse of being skinny with big feet.

    Overall, I think I'm happy with my purchase. I'm going to wear them around as is, and then decide if I want a little length lopped off. Feels almost like a sin to even consider it, but what can you do?

    They are very soft right now too, and I'm debating on starching them. Thoughts? They're basically some of the softest jeans I own right now.

    PS Minya have you decided on yours yet?
     
  14. ddohnggo

    ddohnggo Senior member

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    did you not order the raw ones?
     
  15. Ahaz

    Ahaz Senior member

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    They're raw. They just don't have any starch in them, and I've been wearing my NS, which I starch several times a week.
     
  16. minya

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    I'm pretty sure I'm keeping both of mine. I'm getting my 21cm's hemmed right now (to 33.5" ... bye-bye, chainstitch [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] ) and I think I'm gonna keep the 19cm's. I've worn the 19cm's a couple more times and they've gotten less and less skin-tight on the thighs, and they're starting to look great. I think I'm gonna make the 21cm's my project jean in a few weeks after I wash my D'artisans again. I'm eager to see what they look like when they're worn for a long time w/o a wash. also, I wouldn't starch them. I like that they're soft. It's a nice change from board-stiff jeans. Also, part of why they look so good is the way they drape, and if you starch them the drape-ness (durr) will sort of get fucked up. They'll still fade.
     
  17. Ahaz

    Ahaz Senior member

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    I was considering getting mine hemmed to the 34 or 35 inch range. Post some pics whenever you get yours done, I want to see how they look. Hell, post more pics of your 19 cm while you're at it, I love looking at denim porn.

    That's also what was holding me back about starching them. I was worried they would bunch up all funny. Going from memory, however, I think TragicBliss' Diors looked kinda starched.

    Or at least they had some defined creases that I never seem to get without stiff denim.

    What sucks about the long ass inseam and normal/slim hem, is that when walking around bare foot I step on the jeans several inches above the hem. I'm going to have to be careful, or get them hemmed, lest I end up with some weird ass fading on the back of the leg.

    Off topic aside: My girlfriend of about six weeks is just starting to get all the details about my fashion obsession/hobby. Like a squirrel, I didn't want to frighten her away with lurid stories of dry denim too soon. But now that she knows, she find it weird that I post pictures of myself wearing jeans on the internet. She also finds it weird that I enjoy looking at photos of jeans and other guys wearing jeans.

    Not to mention that she just doesn't really see why I care about it so much. I guess it could seem a little silly if you lay it out like that. I dunno, anyone else have some thoughts or experiences here? The girl before this one loved it when I bought new jeans, and wanted to see them right away. She ranked them all in order of how cute they made my ass look.

    Needless to say, she hated my few anti-fit purchases.
     
  18. giantreptile

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    It's pretty confusing. Here's my Dior Homme saga:

    1) tried on black 19cm Japanese jeans at Saks 5th; fit 100% perfectly, loved the fuck out of them

    2) attempted to order 19cm indigo jeans from Luisaviaroma; apparently I ordered 21cm instead; became dismayed and tried to return, to no avail

    3) ordered 19cm indigo Japanese jeans from Browns in London, on impulse

    4) decide to keep 21cm Japanese indigo jeans from Luisa after deciding that they fit me perfectly, which they do, although I should probably get them hemmed

    5) receive Japanese 19cm indigo jeans from Browns today and realize they are tight as fuck, much tighter than the black ones I tried on at Saks (?????) These fit perfectly everywhere except the thigh, where they are tight as hell. Waist and hips are perfect. I've already noticed some stretching in the thigh area (at the end of the day) so I'm hoping that with a few days of wear, the thighs will stretch a bit and these will fit me perfectly like the very first pair of black ones I tried on at Saks.

    my suggestion: go with the Japanese, and let the fuckers stretch out. The JApanese ones are made of very, very nice denim, and they're very well made (chainstitched and felled seams all throughout...)


    i'm actually surprised to read that your japanese 19 cm are too slim in the thighs for you. i found them to be not that much different than the italian 21 cm, other than the leg opening of course. are you buying these jeans in your actual size or are you sizing down? i do know the canvas or khaki pants that dior makes are super slim through the thighs, so thank goodness they stretch.
     
  19. minya

    minya Senior member

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    i'm actually surprised to read that your japanese 19 cm are too slim in the thighs for you. i found them to be not that much different than the italian 21 cm, other than the leg opening of course. are you buying these jeans in your actual size or are you sizing down? i do know the canvas or khaki pants that dior makes are super slim through the thighs, so thank goodness they stretch.
    What's extra odd is that earlier, I had tried on a pair of black 19cm's at Saks and they fit perfectly. They were slim, but not too tight. The indigo ones were definitely too tight... although they're getting better now. Maybe the Saks ones were already stretched out? I dunno.

    I bought them in my actual size, 32, and the waist fits perfectly.
     
  20. Fuuma

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    What's extra odd is that earlier, I had tried on a pair of black 19cm's at Saks and they fit perfectly. They were slim, but not too tight. The indigo ones were definitely too tight... although they're getting better now. Maybe the Saks ones were already stretched out? I dunno.

    I bought them in my actual size, 32, and the waist fits perfectly.


    You did well, people that size down too much end up having to wear them as high waisted as possible with a saucage fit, it's not that these jeans are badly sized (vanity sizing for twigs [​IMG] ) it's that they're intended to be worn very low on the hips...
     

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