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Dior Question

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Ahaz, Jul 17, 2006.

  1. digital_denim

    digital_denim Big Lose

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    Damn, Brown's doesn't carry the black denim.
     


  2. Fuuma

    Fuuma Franchouillard Modasse

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    I have a pair of Italian denim 21 cm Dior jeans in size 28 sitting on my table right now. I ordered them recently, and went with the 21 cm thinking that they would actually be smaller than that on the size 28.

    Not so. They're pretty baggy on me. I've seen the pictures of the guy on Superfuture with the 21 cm diors, and they look nothing like that. I'm set to return them for a pair of 19 cm, but I have a problem. I can get the 19 cm in either Japanese or Italian denim.

    I was thinking about going with the Japanese denim, just because it's nicer (in theory), and being a denim nut is about wasting your money on things no one will care about but you. I've seen some claims, however, that the Japanese and Italian denim models fit differently, with the Japanese model being much tighter.

    I think that a 7.5" hem (roughly 19cm) is a good look on me. That's what my Mics are, and they fit me great. The Dior I have now, though are an 8" hem and they are WAY too baggy on me. Not fitted at all in any part of the leg. Will the 19 cm Italian jeans be too loose, but with a taper? Will the Japanese 19 cm do the 'getting-smaller-with-smaller-sizes' thing I hear about, and end up being a sub 7" hem?

    Inquiring minds want to know your thoughts and opinions. I realize I probably won't get any hard facts, but conjecture is welcome.


    I wear a size 29 in Japanese 19CM and I'm slightly thinner than you, I definitely wouldn't order a size 28 because even though you may be able to fit in them you'll end up having to wear them as high as possible, cancelling the trademark slouchy look and your legs will be encased in denim leggings. I see so many kids doing that because they want to wear the smallest size possible and it looks horrible. Oh and they do get smaller so 29=7" or something, I can check if you really need to know.
     


  3. Ahaz

    Ahaz Senior member

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    I wear a size 29 in Japanese 19CM and I'm slightly thinner than you, I definitely wouldn't order a size 28 because even though you may be able to fit in them you'll end up having to wear them as high as possible, cancelling the trademark slouchy look and your legs will be encased in denim leggings. I see so many kids doing that because they want to wear the smallest size possible and it looks horrible. Oh and they do get smaller so 29=7" or something, I can check if you really need to know.

    So it's bad I ordered the 19 cm Japanese in 28 this afternoon? The 21 cm Italian ones fit normal at size 28, and could easily be worner lower than my waist.

    Damn, I guess I'll shoot them an email seeing if they've processed my order yet. Fuck it, I just asked them to cancel my order. Hopefully they can do it. I'm still waiting to hear if the 21 cm at Luisaviaroma are Japanese denim or not. I'm thinking those in a 28 (or 29?) might be my best bet.
     


  4. chim

    chim Well-Known Member

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    So it's bad I ordered the 19 cm Japanese in 28 this afternoon? The 21 cm Italian ones fit normal at size 28, and could easily be worner lower than my waist. Damn, I guess I'll shoot them an email seeing if they've processed my order yet. Fuck it, I just asked them to cancel my order. Hopefully they can do it. I'm still waiting to hear if the 21 cm at Luisaviaroma are Japanese denim or not. I'm thinking those in a 28 (or 29?) might be my best bet.
    Ahaz, don't worry about it, you need to size down two for dior raw jeans, otherwise they will become too loose. They stretch out about on par with APC jeans after use, and the size 28 at 19cm will be a perfect match for you after a little bit. If anything, DH jeans usually end up larger than your usual skin-tight fare, but it is very tailored and very good looking. I own two pairs of DHs (lurex blue jeans and processed black jeans) and I usually wear a size 27, and I have a 27 in the black processed and a 28 in the lurex blue and they both fit the same. I've also had lots of encounters with the raw and while dior sizing varies wildly, i think you made the right decision. Just kick back and don't do anything drastic! EDIT: However, my size 25 APC New Standards have replaced the diors as my all time favorite fit. For about 1/3 of the price of diors, it cannot be beat IMHO. It fits identical to a pair of diors with a slightly lower rise and a slightly more fitted seat.
     


  5. Ahaz

    Ahaz Senior member

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    Thanks for the advice Chim and Fuuma. I'm googling to try and find some more info, so maybe it's best that I wait. It kinda scares me that you fit into a size 28, since I'm a size or two bigger than you in the waist iirc.

    I like my NS too, but I have some complaints. The front pockets, for one, just piss me off. I also got the one pair of APC on the planet that don't really stretch out much. They have stretched the least out of all my dry denim, I'd say. Something about the rise and fit in the hips just rubs me the wrong way too. I do really like them though, all that stuff just annoys me in a minor way.
     


  6. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    I like my NS too, but I have some complaints. The front pockets, for one, just piss me off. I also got the one pair of APC on the planet that don't really stretch out much. They have stretched the least out of all my dry denim, I'd say. Something about the rise and fit in the hips just rubs me the wrong way too. I do really like them though, all that stuff just annoys me in a minor way.

    Man, you some skinny ass dudes. I wear a NS 29 antifit, could (some would say should) wear an NS 28, and could (but imo, should not) wear NS in a 27. But NS 25? You guys need to stop buying denim and get yourself some groceries. Or a whole bucket of KFC. Or stop being midgets. Or something [​IMG]

    And the pockets, mid-low rise, and straight down fit at the hips are some of my favorite parts the New Standard. The other thing is the durability. Seriously, APC wear like jeans twice their denim weight.
     


  7. The Grapist

    The Grapist Senior member

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    Chiming in on my APC love. I tried on both the 21 and 19cm Diors at Saks yesterday in size 28, and the sales clerk commented on how the cures I was wearing looked better than either.

    I'm thinking of getting some Hipsters next and tapering in the leg, so I can get a low rise jean with a taper, for about $260 less than the new Selvedge Diors.
     


  8. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    Chiming in on my APC love. I tried on both the 21 and 19cm Diors at Saks yesterday in size 28, and the sales clerk commented on how the cures I was wearing looked better than either.

    I'm thinking of getting some Hipsters next and tapering in the leg, so I can get a low rise jean with a taper, for about $260 less than the new Selvedge Diors.


    For the price (even if it is $30 higher than it was just 2 years ago [​IMG] ), APC cannot be beat. Unless you can get something on sale, of course, which APC's generally never are.
     


  9. Brian SD

    Brian SD Moderator

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    Chiming in on my APC love. I tried on both the 21 and 19cm Diors at Saks yesterday in size 28, and the sales clerk commented on how the cures I was wearing looked better than either.

    I'm thinking of getting some Hipsters next and tapering in the leg, so I can get a low rise jean with a taper, for about $260 less than the new Selvedge Diors.


    The newer narrow jeans from APC have a men's and a women's version, correct? Perhaps the women's have a lower rise.
     


  10. chim

    chim Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the advice Chim and Fuuma. I'm googling to try and find some more info, so maybe it's best that I wait. It kinda scares me that you fit into a size 28, since I'm a size or two bigger than you in the waist iirc. I like my NS too, but I have some complaints. The front pockets, for one, just piss me off. I also got the one pair of APC on the planet that don't really stretch out much. They have stretched the least out of all my dry denim, I'd say. Something about the rise and fit in the hips just rubs me the wrong way too. I do really like them though, all that stuff just annoys me in a minor way.
    The size 28 lames are notoriously known for being sized extremely small. I wear a size 25 APC NS and the size 28 lames are harder to button up, for comparison. The dior front pockets are nice and deep though, the APC front pockets are almost non existant. However, I find the NS just a perfect cut; it is very slim with a small taper and just looks fantastic on my body type. I tried the cures and I don't think i was able to pull them off as well because of my 5'8 height; i looked more goofy than svelte. [​IMG] Here's a pretty bad pic of me wearing my sz 25 new standards.
     


  11. The Grapist

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    The only difference is now they're going out and saying that there's a men's and women's version, the rise is still proportionally the same. Matter of fact, the Cures I'm wearing right now have an "F" on the back of the tag for "Femme."

    And while I should've given them a few more minutes of wearing, the New Cures were painfully tight on me.
     


  12. Dangydang

    Dangydang Senior member

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    While we're still on the topic of Cures, does anyone know if the old ones are still being produced?
     


  13. The Grapist

    The Grapist Senior member

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    While we're still on the topic of Cures, does anyone know if the old ones are still being produced?

    Nope, they've got some in store, but for the next season, no more will be made. They will be back in a season or two, however.
     


  14. Ahaz

    Ahaz Senior member

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    Even though this is now the official APC discussion thread, I did find some 21 cm Japanese Diors. Gonna give those a go, and hope they're tighter than the ones I just returned.

    Wish me luck.
     


  15. cultpop 0217

    cultpop 0217 I, Manface

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    Because I'm an indecisive moron, pretty much.

    The black ones I tried on looked interesting. They were very dark (sort of like asphalt, I guess), but not overdyed -- you could clearly see that the weft (or warp, hell, I don't know) was left white. However, the thign that turned me off was that all the stitching was black. Even the back pockets. And I love the back pocket darts. Still, in retrospect, I should have bought the black 19cm's... and then bought a pair of the Japanese indigo 21cm's.

    Ahaz, my 21cm's fit pretty close to that.

    here's a terrible picture of my 19cm jeans
    [​IMG]

    edit: I'm totally hemming and hawing over whether these 19cm's are just too tight, and whether to keep them. If anyone wants a pair of Japanese 19cm Dior jeans in size 32, contact me now [​IMG]



    those look good on you minya
     


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