Dior homme

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  1. @riss

    @riss Senior member

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    I'd like to discuss pros and cons of various designer ready-to-wear suits. I haven't had a suit custom-made yet, so i can't comment on that.  However, to my mind, the best thing going is the super slim-fit or the antithesis of the type of suit a politician would wear. A few months ago I purchased my first "grown-man" suit for my first serious job out of college.  I've long been a fan of Hedi Slimane's work from the sidelines, so when it was time I got a black Dior-Homme 3-button on sale at Barney's. The tailoring is impeccable for off the rack.  The new Alexander McQueen men's stuff looks pretty good too, I like Jil Sander and Helmut Lang, but I honestly don't think anyone else is making men's clothes on the level of Slimane.  I know this discussion board tends to be more on the conservative side of the spectrum, but is there anyone else out there who really feels the skinnier, hipper stuff?
     
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    IMHO he's the latest in a long line of designers who lived off of hype moreso than putting together impressive clothing on a consistent basis.

    Sorry, I personally can't stand the look. Unwearable to the nth degree...
     
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    I have a Dior Homme suit, I think the quality is pretty good and I like the cut of it, but they are geared towards slimmer and less muscled people for the most part. I generally prefer Brioni.
     
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    I respect that everyone isn't into Slimane's aesthetic. The clothes aren't wearable if one isn't rather slender. However, the stuff is cut extremely well, that's not even really debatable. I'd be curious to know who you find to be better, that was the main point of my initial post.
     
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    but black might not be the best color for work.
     
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    I think most people wouldn't wear dior homme to work, it's a little bit edgy for most workplace scenarios.
     
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    I think a slim suit makes a nice change of pace. What I find odd about the last few years of Dior Homme is that no matter what direction Slimane took in the line, it was always hailed as visionary, and revolutionary, and genius. But for the most part, it was skinny suits, and tank tops, and leather jackets, and treated denim - all of which have been done, and done, and done. If you've seen a Dior Homme fashion show, all the models look like heroin addicts wearing ill-fitting thrift-store clothing. I can see the appeal of one or two pieces, but head-to-toe Dior looks horrible.
     
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    I think that says it all. If your over 20, not a heroin addict (or add your drug of choice), weigh more than 120 lbs, happen to be taller than 5'8" or are at all athletic - Dior Homme is absolutely unwearable. The skinny suit is nothing more than a rework of the mid 50's look - it didn't look good on more than a few then ( think Rolling Stones) and it looks no better now. As to cut and construction - nice, reasonably well executed and extremely overpriced for what it is. I'll take any number of better made, better priced and better designed articles of clothing from a good number of sources.
     
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    While I respect Slimane's aesthetic, I agree with Alexander McQueen's recent assessment of his work - essentially: well cut it may be, fit everyone it will not. This despite Slimane's assertion that fat, thin, short, tall, everyone looks the same in Dior (a paraphrase from an Arena Homme+ interview.)

    Unlike the majority of forum members, I'm not really a traditionalist, but there are designers I much prefer to Slimane, both on a conceptual and real-life-wear level. I much prefer the cutting of Costume National's Ennio Capasa and Helmut Lang for personal wear, and I much prefer Prada's "chic army" aesthetic to Slimane's.
     
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    Ahahahahahaha. He's funny, as well as being a genius. And a visionary.
     
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    i'm not a heroin addict and i'm 6" tall, but the d-homme still fits very well. my work doesn't really require that i wear a suit everyday, so i mostly wear the jacket seperately with jeans. i'm not trying to get into a discussion of whether black is the right color for work, as an earlier post suggested it wasn't. i agree with one of the previous posts that costume national has some cool stuff, i like the fit. i like alot of helmut lang's stuff and i have some shirts and pants, but i've tried on some of his suits and i don't find them to be better than slimane's stuff. alot of d-homme stuff is overpriced compared to lang. my next suit prolly won't be d-homme, but i would buy an overcoat-my friend picked one up in europe and i have yet to see a cooler coat.
     
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    I agree with you LAGuy - I much prefer Lang, Prada or Costume National for an edgy yet wearable aesthetic.
     
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    Yes, Master Yoda... [​IMG]
     
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    perhaps i'm just posting to people with different interests in clothes than i have. i'm in my early 20's and don't really care about john lobbs and courduroy blazers. oh well.
     
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    Hey, I just turned 30, and don't care about John Lobbs either, insofar as I don't particularly care to own a pair right now. If you are interested in being "hip" though, don't knock corduroy blazers. Blazers have been simmering in the primordial hipster muck of NYC, LA, London, Paris and Montreal for a while now, anre are on fire this season. Every designer and their dog is making one, or did last season, including media darlings like Rogan, and hipster secrets like Built by Wendy and Unis (at least, I think Unis did one this season - might be off on this one. But I have a BBW one, so that I'm sure about.)

    And there were plenty of posters who were knowledgeable about Dior Homme, but prefered other labels to it. Nothing wrong with that.
     
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