Dior 21cm online order question and rambling

[capnpyro]

After searching the forums for the last hour I decided I'm going to buy a pair of Dior 21's as my next pair of project jeans to replace my defunct SD 103's that are in a constant state of looking like they're unbuttoned when I put them on (it looks like a fat man wearing a to tight shirt), and to replace my further defunct Nudie BO's that were my favorite denim of all time that up and disintegrated one day.

But I digress. I'm figuring on ordering from eluxury but can't tell if these are italian or japanese versions (I'd prefer japanese from the minor differences I've seen), and if there's any other retailers (e-tailers?) out there that give you a bit more information.

http://www.eluxury.com/browse/produc...SectionID=7000
Are these them? 21 inch, what? http://www.brownsfashion.com/BrownsF...omme/80896.htm

It's strange ordering sight unseen which is why I'm avoiding the 19cm's, I know when to tight is to tight and it looks like those will be it.

I was originally looking at PBJ 005's but ordering off Rakuten is such a pain **********. I'm not a huge denimhead like most of you, I just like having a nice pair of good fitting raw denim to break in and I like how the Dior 21s look in the various pictures I've seen. They have a nice fitted look without being stupidly tight which I don't want (like I said my BO's fit nearly ideal), and I like the idea of them being soft compared to the plywood like Dartis. If there's anything else that'd fit this some-what-demanding denim wearers needs that's easily orderable let me know.

 

[PG2G]

PBJ 005 is available at Blue in Green, no need for Rakuten.

 

[Ott]

the ones on eluxury are italy made, and will be a whole lot "baggier" (by dior standards) than the made in Japans. The hem on my italian diors is something like 8.2 inches- not skinny at all.

EDIT- eluxury, browns, and luisaviaroma are the only online stockists of DH afaik, but you can call one of the Dior boutiques and they should be able to ship you a pair if you're in the US.

 

[capnpyro]

Originally Posted by PG2G

PBJ 005 is available at Blue in Green, no need for Rakuten.
Yeah, they're out of 32's, I haven't been whoring their site long enough to notice their restock period.

Originally Posted by Ott

the ones on eluxury are italy made, and will be a whole lot "baggier" (by dior standards) than the made in Japans. The hem on my italian diors is something like 8.2 inches- not skinny at all. EDIT- eluxury, browns, and luisaviaroma are the only online stockists of DH afaik, but you can call one of the Dior boutiques and they should be able to ship you a pair if you're in the US.
To the first part: ARGH. To the second part: Good idea, thanks! [Edit: I'm dumb, I live in LA. There's a Dior store on Rodeo in Beverly Hills. Duh. I am lazy, however.]

 

[PG2G]

There's always the Self Edge x Iron Heart Dior 21cm repro.

 

[chronoaug]

I was under the impression that the Brut Diors were japanese made and the Nostalgy ones were the italian made ones. I'm not a huge dior head because of the price but someone told me that once.

 

[Maharlika]

Originally Posted by PG2G

There's always the Self Edge x Iron Heart Dior 21cm repro.

Still waiting for it to come out somtime in March, I believe. I'm really impressed with Iron Heart so far. I hope they'll have my size by the time it sells online.

 

[capnpyro]

Originally Posted by chronoaug

I was under the impression that the Brut Diors were japanese made and the Nostalgy ones were the italian made ones. I'm not a huge dior head because of the price but someone told me that once.
Thanks for the lead, after a couple rounds of clever googling I found this

Originally posted by ishboo Well either way apparently the luisaviaroma guy was wrong, I just got this: "I wanted to update you about the Item Code 06V119 Dior Brut Denim 19cm Hem Jeans that are Euro 216.00. This pair is MADE in JAPAN thus the Euro 216.00. The 06V079 Nostalgy Brut Denim 19Cm jeans at Euro 172.00 – this pair is made in ITALY – therefore “less expensive”. I regret the confusion this may have caused."

So DH Brut = Japanese, DH Nostalgy Brut = Italian it looks like. That'd mean eluxury is safe, I think I'll stop by the Rodeo store this weekend just to be sure.

 

[PG2G]

Aren't the DH Japanese supposed to be $290?

 

[Maharlika]

Originally Posted by PG2G

Aren't the DH Japanese supposed to be $290?


295 USD. 319.34 USD out the door sales tax included in California.

 

[lowrey]

Brut means raw in french. many stores refer to the Japanese ones as Brut and Italian ones as Nostalgy, but I wouldn't trust those terms 100%. for example eLuxury has them as "Brut", but it also says made in italy. the ones they have are italian ones, not japanese.

what goes for differences between the models, the japanese ones are slightly slimmer and in my opinion slightly better fitting. the leg opening for example on a size 31 is 20.5cm ans on the italians its 21.5cm. overall not a huge difference, basically the same fit.

 

[chronoaug]

There's a dior store in vegas that i know people from sufu have ordered dior japanese from. You can google it and call them.

 

[grapz]

do u know if the dior stores shipt o canada

 

[capnpyro]

Originally Posted by grapz

do u know if the dior stores shipt o canada
Dior Las Vegas
the wynn las vegas
3131 las vegas boulevard south
las vegas, nv 89109
telephone \t702 735-1345
fax \t702 735-0439

Dior Beverly Hills Men
315 N Rodeo Dr
Beverly Hills, CA 90210
(310) 247-8003 - close call
diorhomme.com

May as well give one a call and see.

 

[Bona Drag]

You're already in a pretty steep price range with the Italians, so maybe it's not such a big deal, but is there a significant enough difference between the Italian and Japanese denim to justify the extra $55? Or are they not even close, and is paying $295 of Japanses are much better deal? I realize I'd probably be flamed to death on SuFu for such heresy...