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Dinner party at a partner's house

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Lomezz, Oct 17, 2004.

  1. kidkim2

    kidkim2 Senior member

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    aramg--

    I'm afraid I'm going to have to stand corrected (re "informal")--and if you knew how painful that is. . . .  

    I will note in my defense, however, that "informal" attire for evening wedding parties is--at least in my neighborhood--black tie.  Not that there are all that many evening wedding parties. . . .

    I haven't seen the word "semi-formal" in a long, long time.  (Has it become hopelessly declasse, like "semi-classical"?)  But I seem to remember its appearing, several lifetimes ago, on invitations to the (suburban) Assemblies, to which, I think, most boys of my generation wore dark business suits.  (But could have, and should have, worn black tie.)
     
  2. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    It's surprising how few men know these conventions anymore.  Everyone on the board knows by now that my style might have been formally described as "working in the mines" a century ago.  Nevertheless, it is useful to know even the conventions one does not adhere to.  

    KidKim, these days, a semi-formal refers to an event to which undergraduates wear khakis and blue blazers, and usually an oxford buttondown.  And loafers.  I know it would pain you...

    Fixed a typo.
     
  3. Lomezz

    Lomezz Senior member

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    And a remarkable statement it will be, alright. It might just remarkable me out of  job  [​IMG]
     
  4. kidkim2

    kidkim2 Senior member

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    No, no, LA Guy. That's the other fellow--and he's no longer with us. I'm crazy about loafers with practically anything--and, to prove it, I plan to post a drop dead portrait of me in my Oxxford glen plaid suit (SartorialSolutions), white MTM Brioni dress shirt, Talbott Best in Class tie, and black Alden shell cordovan tassel slip-ons.
     
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    tattersall Senior member

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    LA Guy, I think Vanity Fair magazine has just described this look well: "haute gas station attendant" Â [​IMG]
     
  6. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    Those are the guys who wear a lot of DSquared. (Seriously, that label ran out of ideas in a hurry. Did we need another season of "Diner" shirts?) I prefer "Designer Mall Rat".
     
  7. drizzt3117

    drizzt3117 Senior member

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    Hmm, I've seen the following divisions lately:

    Business Casual: Slacks/Khakis, Oxford/Polo, Blazer optional.
    Semi Formal: Business suit, tie
    Formal: Black Tie

    Does that make sense or is there just a huge varying definition of semi-formal?
     
  8. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    This is a good summary of how terms are used my most people, now. However, the traditional divisions (for evening - if we have to get into daytime functions, things just get unnecessarily complicated for the purposes of this thread) are:

    Formal - white tie (tails)
    Semiformal - Black tie
    Informal - business suit
    Casual - odd jacket and trousers.

    Going without a jacket was pretty much unheard of. A shirt is seen primarily as an *undergarment* if you will. The jacket and trousers are the clothing. That's why, in lots of traditional men's shops, shirting is separated from the tailored clothing section.

    There is no business casual, traditionally. That was an excuse for no-style execs to wear polo shirts tucked into their pleated chinos.
     

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