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Difference between stylish and effete?

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For me, cufflinks, monograms, fitted shirts, horsebit loafers, logoed polo shorts, collar bars, and Hermes ties are just too much. Where do you draw the line between fashionable and foppish?
 

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Well, I agree that wearing all of those items at once would be a bit too much. Individually, though, with the exception of the monograms and the logoed polo shirts, I think that all can work given the correct individual.

As for me, I don't worry about the line between fashionable and foppish. I trust my aesthetic sensibility and wear what I like and what I think is appropriate.
 

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It's your choice and your line.
 

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Individually, though, with the exception of the monograms and the logoed polo shirts, I think that all can work given the correct individual.
I'm sorry, I didn't quite understand. Does this mean you do not like logoed polo shirts and monograms?

I have monogrammed shirts from Jantzen, but they are monogrammed in the yoke so no one gets to see them.
I also bought several Lacoste polo shirts recently.

For me, I do not like anything that is loud. Cuff links, tight shirts, monograms, Hermes ties, logoed polo shirts can be subtle/simple and hence acceptable. But ocassionaly it might be considered stylish to wear, say, a very plain white shirt with jeans and an outrageous pair of cuff links.
 

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I'm sorry, I didn't quite understand. Does this mean you do not like logoed polo shirts and monograms?
Yes, that is what I mean. I think that if Polo or Lacoste want me to advertise their shirts, they should pay me to do so instead of me paying them. As for monograms, I can remember who I am, so I don't need them. Discreetly done, however, I have no objection to them for others if that's what they want.
 

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I hate those Gucci hats with monogram G's all over them. It looks so tacky/stupid/rediculous/angering.

And I also think the men's Seven for all mankind jeans have a pretty effete cut.. I don't care for it.

Cufflinks I love, and all my shirts are "fitted" (otherwise I don't wear them).
 

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For me, cufflinks, monograms, fitted shirts, horsebit loafers, logoed polo shorts, collar bars, and Hermes ties are just too much. Â Where do you draw the line between fashionable and foppish?
Yeah, fitted shirts are really foppish..I much prefer to have heinous amounts of fabric billowing forth.
 

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Well, there's fitted, and then there's fitted. Of course you want any piece of clothing to fit according to your proportions. But, some men wear shirts that fit on them like a second skin; unbutton a few buttons and you've got Saturday Night Fever for the new millennium. The look is feminine - I'm not into it.
 

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In order to wear a properly fitted suit, one needs a properly fitted shirt. The two go hand-in-hand.
 

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can someone please define the words 'foppish' and 'effete'?
i don't know what you guys are talking about.

i agree that it is tacky to wear clothing with logos/advertising on them.

there is a big difference between something that is fitted and something that is tight. too many people are using these words interchangeably.

what's so different about an hermes tie?

i don't like jewelry on men, so that leaves out collar bars and cufflinks, though silk knots are cool on formal occasions.
 

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i agree that it is tacky to wear clothing with logos/advertising on them.
Can an exception be made for the crocodile? I just bought four of them.
 

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i agree that it is tacky to wear clothing with logos/advertising on them.
Can an exception be made for the crocodile? I just bought four of them.
NO EXCEPTIONS...
 

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i agree that it is tacky to wear clothing with logos/advertising on them.
Can an exception be made for the crocodile? I just bought four of them.
Oh, I think it will be fine as long as your collar is up...
 

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Yes, that is what I mean. I think that if Polo or Lacoste want me to advertise their shirts, they should pay me to do so instead of me paying them. As for monograms, I can remember who I am, so I don't need them.
 

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