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Diesel watches

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Catch-22, Sep 29, 2004.

  1. Catch-22

    Catch-22 Active Member

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    Let me start off this post with the disclaimer that I'm looking for a fun/less expensive watch for everyday wear. Â I'm also 24 and have come to a realization that I should start dressing a bit more my age....I mean I'll be able to wear borrelli, kiton.... for the rest of my life, but how much longer will I really be able to wear pdc and for that matter, diesel. Â In the medium-term, I'd love to splurge on an IWC Mark XV, a Jaeger-LeCoultre Reverso, or a vintage Art Deco style Rolex, but am currently planning on buying a house and think the extra couple thousand could probably better be served on a down payment. With that in mind, anyone have any thoughts on the styling/reliability of diesel watches? Â In particular, I have my eye on the following: I'd also appreciate any other brands/styles to consider Thanks in advance, [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  2. drizzt3117

    drizzt3117 Senior member

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    I personally wear a Bvlgari Solotiempo or a Tag F1 as a more fun sporty watch to wear, I think cheaper watches (except for Seiko, Timex, etc...) such as KC, Diesel, etc... are just throwing away money, as they are low quality and likely won't last long, and look fairly inexpensive. I do think Seiko, Timex, Citizen, are well made and durable watches, if not particularly stylish.
     
  3. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    I personally like Victorinox watches. They are well made, *some* are well designed, and reliable. You might also want to check out MOMO designs. BTW, nothing wrong with Fossil manufactured watches.
     
  4. Andrew V.

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    I like Diesel watches. If you happen upon a Fossil factory-outlet store, you'll find some cheap Diesel watches.
     
  5. VMan

    VMan Senior member

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    True, the Fossil outlet store at Gurnee Mills has all Diesel watches (huge assortment of styles) for $35-$65, which is at least 50% off retail prices.

    They also have Emporio Armani watches for under $100.

    I don't own either, but both are fashion watches rather than serious timepieces. The quality isn't high, but they are simply out there for the design. Some Diesel's aren't bad, same with the EA watches, but they'll look dated after a few years.
     
  6. drizzt3117

    drizzt3117 Senior member

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    The problem with Fossil, KC, etc... is that they simply copy higher end designs, which is OK in my opinion for the average person, but since the average person on this forum doesn't wear knock-off designer clothing, I would imagine they wouldn't like to wear knock-off watches as well, perhaps that assumption is incorrect though.
     
  7. VMan

    VMan Senior member

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    So does that mean I should get rid of my 'Gucci' tracksuits that are fully covered in the G/G logo, or get rid of my nice Giorgio Versace shirts?
     
  8. drizzt3117

    drizzt3117 Senior member

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    those are ok, but those BRADA shoes have got to go.
     
  9. VMan

    VMan Senior member

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    Uggh...I'd never buy Brada shoes. Only Prado for me.
     
  10. vero_group

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    <soapbox>

    I must insert my obligatory reminder here to not buy the Fossil watch, but buy the Fossil stock. Fossil (FOSL) is an obscenely profitable company with outstanding returns on equity (ROE). I've owned this stock upwards of four years now and have no plans of ever selling. I am a very happy man. IMHO, the stock is a much better long-term investment than the watch.

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  11. VMan

    VMan Senior member

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  12. vero_group

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    Hmmm. I consider myself an oil & gas expert of sorts and I've never heard of China Petrol (SNP). I'll have to check them out. I know PetroChina (PTR) and CNOOC Limited (CEO) very well. I had the good fortune of buying PTR around $18 about six months before it was announced that Warren Buffett had been buying tons of it too. It's at $50 these days, but I sold it around $40 because I also own Berkshire Hathaway stock which already has Buffett's purchases of PTR built into it -- too much exposure to PTR (not a riskless investment by any means given that it's run by Communists). I put the proceeds in Canadian Oil Sands Trust (COSWF) instead. By the way, in general, Internet bulletin boards of any kind are awfully horrible sources for "stock tips". Nothing beats learning how to evaluate and value a company yourself and then investing with your convictions while ignoring what everyone else is doing. It works for Warren and it works for me. If you're really interested in oil & gas companies, Kurt Wulff, CFA is the best oil & gas company analyst out there and he publishes his (delayed) research reports for free on his website, http://www.mcdep.com. I discovered his site and its top quality insights about four or five years ago -- I've been riding high on the increasing demand for oil ever since...
     
  13. rsp1

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    I hope y'all have your Series 7/63 [​IMG] Anyway, my 2 favorite watches 1) Zenith Port Royal V Elite (just purchased) http://www.zenith-watches.com/scripts....=3_2_1# Zenith is one of the few brands that makes all of their own movements in house, and even made the movements for Rolex Daytona (Zenith happen to be owned by LVMH now, but it hasn't hurt their quality). They are not well known among most people, but are well known among watch enthusiasts. You will never be sitting in an airplane and see the guy next to you wearing the same watch (subtle dig at the surprisingly mass produced Rolex). Check out their new "Class" line.. 2) Perhaps the "it" watch of the moment - anything by Officiane Panerai (yup, it's Italian, not swiss). This is the perfect weekend or club watch (check out the rubber strap). http://www.panerai.it/s_page.....oria=36
     
  14. MikeF

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    If you're going to buy a Fossil, buy a Starck - at least you'll get unique rather than knock-off styling.
     
  15. vero_group

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    Well.... Series 7 & 63 are more about selling financial products to the public than about investing, per se. A CPA or CFA is more appropriate, though not necessary, for investing.
     
  16. drizzt3117

    drizzt3117 Senior member

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    I've just been buying/selling on market swings of CNXT and JDSU (some of my fav tech companies, I used to own JDS when it was in the hundreds of dollars, but didn't buy there, thankfully) I bought a bunch of Conexant when it was under $0.60 and sold for $7 though, that put a smile on my face. I've been buying it on the way down and selling on the way up for pretty good effect.
     
  17. Brian SD

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    I don't know from what experience you are basing these claims, but I have had excellent luck with fossil-manufactured watches. I am wearing a Diesel watch right now that I like very much, and I absolutely do not consider it to be a knock-off of another company's design. In fact, I have never seen a watch like it (and in the case of the one I'm wearing, it's not a bad thing). Just because it's cheap doesn't mean that it's of sub-par design or quality. You don't buy a watch with a face that looks like a tachometer with a big fat leather strap so that people will gaze upon it and marvel at the art of its automatic guts. I appreciate a fine watch just as much as the next guy, but prestige comes to a halt when you get to the street. My watch cost me $90, and it's lasted a lot longer than other things I've spent more than $90 on, so really, I would have to say that it is a wise investment, as it is a miniscule one that yields many compliments. Sure it doesn't go with your Oxxford. But who wears an Oxxford every day anyway (I surely do not, and I doubt the original poster does either)? Having said all that, I like the examples of the Diesel watches you gave, I would recommend any of them, just go with whichever you think looks best on your wrist. I do recommend you stop by a Nordstrom (I've never seen one without a full collection of Diesel watches) to see how they look on you, because even if the photo looks great, it could be too large or small, or the leather might look awful against your skin and hair.
     
  18. drizzt3117

    drizzt3117 Senior member

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    Fossil is notorious for putting out watches that are extremely similar to Tag Heuer, and Kenneth Cole is worse. A quick browse of Diesel's Timeframes store reveals a watch that is extremely similar to Bvlgari's Aluminum, and a huge selection of watches that are butt ugly, if not similar to anything that I can recognize.

    Personally I think a nice watch is one of the most important accessories a man can have, and recognize that my view on this is different than most others on this forum, I view a cheap watch as worse than a cheap suit.
     
  19. Brian SD

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    Perhaps you should rethink your list of assessments that you consider your opinions on, knocking down "retail cost" a few spots. I don't like Kenneth Cole watches myself, but if it bothers yuppies so much, I might buy one, drive up to Dana Point, slap it on my wrist, walk around in my 5-year-old Clash t-shirt with an ultra slim YSL blazer on top, and throw in some ripped up Levis for good measure. Then when all the tools are stressing out because they can't get a spot at the bar in Gen Kai, they can see my senseless outfit and my high-contrast white earbuds, they'll shake their heads and feel uneasy around such trash, and I'll have successfully added one more thing to their stressful list. Ahhh, I can dream.
     
  20. drizzt3117

    drizzt3117 Senior member

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    Retail cost isn't the issue, I think a well made Seiko, Citizen, or Timex watch is a fine accessory. However, aesthetics and quality of construction are as important to me in a watch as they are in a suit. Certainly you are paying a premium for marketing for a Tag over a Seiko which in a quartz movement watch is probably close in accuracy and build quality, but likely you are sacrificing aesthetic quality. However, with a Diesel, Fossil, KC, you are paying for the marketing to at least as high a degree, and certainly getting an inferior product, albeit a less expensive one.
     

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