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Did I just get scammed?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Pickles1, Jun 27, 2012.

  1. Pickles1

    Pickles1 New Member

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    Hello! I am new to this forum so excuse me if I come off as a bit newbish. I recently purchased a Borrelli tie off of Ebay and I was just wondering if it sounded legit. It seems to have the actual logo but other than that I am not sure how to authenticate it as a genuine Luigi Borrelli tie. Are there any nuances of the tie that can relate to an authentic Borrelli? Also, I own a few ties "Made in China" and they all seem to be soft and drape elegantly when hanging. This Borrelli tie actually feels a bit stiff and has sort of rumples on the face of the tie. Does this sound odd or is this normal with these ties?

    Sorry for being so nit-picky but I want to make sure my hard earned money is being invested into a quality item. Thanks in advance!
     
  2. jrd617

    jrd617 Senior member

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    Sounds 100% fake from your description. Lots of Borrelli counterfeiters on the Bay these days. They feed off Borrelli's household name.

    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
     
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  3. GBR

    GBR Senior member

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    Probably fake - but why ask after the event - buyer's remorse strikes?

    Try a bricks and mortar shop next time.
     
  4. SpooPoker

    SpooPoker Internet Bigtimer and Most Popular Man on Campus Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    Borrelli uses a pink look to keep the tie back blades in place - located about 2" underneath the Borrelli label on the back. Is it there?
     
  5. SamG-

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    Probably fake.
    I bought a Gucci shirt from Amazon last year and it just didn't feel right the material was quite coarse didn't have the distinct feel of a premium shirt.
    I simply told my Credit card company that the goods were in dispute and they refunded the money to my account. I sent an email to the seller explaining this and for the address to resend it to.
    I Googled the address to find a shoddy looking house not the place which inspires trust.
    Be wary and if you bought it on the credit card get them to refund your money back.
     
  6. NORE

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    *runs home to check Borrelli ties*
     
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  8. plei89

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    I haven't ever seen any fake Borrelli Napoli items... It's such a niche brand, that the profit margins are not worth it. Also, anyone who buys it, would be able to tell in a heartbeat from craftsmanship.

    What I'm thinking is you might've mistakened it for another brand, which has the word "Borrelli" in it.
     
  9. MikeDT

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    That often happens. A good example are the cheap "Bianco Brioni" suits that are sometimes seen on Ebay. People buy them thinking they've got the Italian Brioni, when in fact they have not.
     
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    Yep, looks real from here.
     
  11. dks202

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    How does "stiff and rumples" make it sound fake? He has other ties made in China, not this one.
     
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    *runs back home to check again because of not knowing what a pink look was*
     
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    I just made a post about the fact that these "Italian" B. Brioni suits are still being sold by Amazon.
    http://www.styleforum.net/t/204928/brioni-for-149#post_5557843

    I don't normally think of a reputable company like Amazon for selling obvious knock-offs, but apparently they do,.
    http://www.amazon.com/Bianco-Brioni...&qid=1340980919&sr=8-1&keywords=bianco+brioni
    "Bianco Brioni Made in Italy".....haha.
     
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  15. jeff13007

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    Well technically they aren't knock offs. The founder of that firm's name could very well be "Bianco Brioni". Now if they started selling under the "Brioni Roma" line or just "Brioni" then i can see where there would be an issue.
     
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    Possibly, IANAL but isn't there a question of registered trademarks? Even the Bianco Brioni logo uses a very similar cursive style to the original Brioni. I presume there isn't a person called Bianco Brioni, it's just a made up name for the purposes of deception, and that these suits are coming from China and NOT Italy.

    For example, if founder of a firm that made computers was called Johnny Apple, and they sold computers branded as "Johnny Apple", I'm quite sure the legal department of certain computer firm in Cupertino, California would be onto them like a ton of bricks.

    Here In China there's a lot of this kind of thing. We got Nokla and Nckia instead of Nokia, Motopola instead of Motorola, Somsong instead of Samsung, HiPhone instead of iPhone, You can even buy an "Apple iPhone" gas stove ..LOL That's why I was rather surprised to see something like this being sold by Amazon in the US.
     
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    Oh i absolutely agree that its messed up that these things are being sold. But from a legal standpoint even if Brioni registered the trademark for their brand name, the fact is that Bianco Brioni's label says "Bianco Brioni" in a thin red label as oppose to just "Brioni" in a square white or red (for their older ones) bordered hand stitched one. [​IMG] [​IMG] You can always argue that the labels look nothing alike even though most likely B. Brioni is trying to be a knockoff.
     
  18. stevey d.

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    What about Brioni Bankok? Is this technically a knock-off? :nodding:



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  19. stevey d.

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    double post
     
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  20. Ich_Dien

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    A picture of the tie would help.



    This isn't always true in my experience.
     
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