Designer ratios

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  1. demeis

    demeis Senior member

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    Ok so i'm kind of doing a little project for school and was wondering for the most part are their more male or more female designers? I'm talking about major designer who design for both men and women. the purpose of this is to see if designers (male) are responsible for telling women what to wear and if it is a sexist arena or if in fact a large majorities of major influencial designers are female. Anyhow i hope this is an appropriate topic if not let me know.

    thanks
    Nik
     
  2. Carlo

    Carlo Senior member

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    Some of each, more men.

    Certain innovations were specifically designed by us men to keep women down.

    Examples:
    1. High heels - in the first place it keeps women from sneaking up on us with sharp objects because we hear them a mile away. It also ensures that we can outrun them.
    2. Thongs - anyone really think that butt floss was an idea hatched in the female mind? I think not.
    3. Lacy underwear/lingerie - Yeah, right... women just hate soft cotton against these areas and would much prefer some nice itchy lace, nothin says happy like a good rash.
    4. Pushup bras, crotchless panties... nuff said.
    5. Spandex - notice how it only comes in small sizes.

    Yes, you have it figured out - we figure that women have half the money and complete control over sex so we got even by making their fashions excruciatingly uncomfortable and demeaning in hopes that it would put them in their place. I think women should revolt against this injustice and refuse to wear clothing until we change our wicked ways. Those victoria's secret models are the most obvious victims and should thus begin the rebellion by parading around naked. I would support such a move by my poor sisters in bondage in their fight for fashion fairness.

    Now I must go and prepare my Nobel acceptance speech.
     
  3. Mike C.

    Mike C. Senior member

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    If you look at actual designers, not just the "big name designers," I'm talking about the people that work under Tom Ford, Jil Sander, etc... they tend to be women more often then men.
     
  4. Jill

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    Hmmmm. So are they "figureheads" at the top the true creative minds, merely the business mine/PR people? Or are the women "beneath" them just really good assistant designers?

    Hmmmmmm..... It's kind of a personality thing isn't it. The stronger personalities will typically be better promoters, and their audacity will get their work noticed. Exceptions to the rule: owning a big name already (Stella McCartney), having a big-name mentor/promoter.

    In our case, however, we have neither. So we just have to make beautiful, high-quality stuff for a great price... IMHO.
     
  5. Mike C.

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    Not really... the "figureheads" really do design, or else they wouldn't be "fashion designers". Think of it this way... Does the President really make laws and run the country? You could argue that Congress and all the departments do the work, while the President is just for PR; the same with fashion companies.

    The head designers have full creative control over all product that is produced. Their job is to provide the creative inspiration and give direction in how the line will be executed, then all the other designers (the ones that aren't famous), execute the plan according to the head designers vision. The head designer will personally hand pick swatches for the design team to work with, and a color pallete. When the line is complete the head designer has veto power of each item, and in some instances will scrap the whole line. Usually they end up making minimal changes, then finally they give thier blessing and the line is released.
     
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    Carlo Senior member

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    Careful answering this question. My sarcasm just got me whacked in the back of the head by the designer who does the real work around here.
     
  7. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    Mike C. is absolutely correct. And although a lot of the large fashion houses are headed by men, increasingly more of the "independent" designers are women. Check out First View for (a not very comprehensive listing) of designers.
     
  8. von Rothbart

    von Rothbart Senior member

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    Women could use high heels as weapon against men. Remember Single White Female? When Jennifer Jasan Leigh used her stiletto to pierce Steve Weber's brain through the eye socket.
     

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