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Designer jeans

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by stylingazn, Feb 4, 2004.

  1. unappliedscience

    unappliedscience Member

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    I differ on the fit of PDC jeans. They tend to run large. My size 30 PDC jeans are bigger in waist than my size 31 Seven jeans. I would say Seven jeans are most true to their tagged sizes and PDC a bit bigger.
     
  2. Brian SD

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    unappliedscience - yes you're right. I just measured mine and my PDCs are a bit larger.
     
  3. MikeF

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    Having worn everything from Levis to Sevens to PDCs, I find that Diesel makes the best jean overall. While I like Sevens and PDCs, the reality is that most of their jeans will be out of fashion in two years' time. To put it slightly differently, Seven jeans look like Seven jeans, and not like any other jeans.

    Diesel, on the other hand, at least *used* to make jeans fashionable enough to wear now but timeless enough to wear two years from now also. Unfortunately, it's getting harder and harder to find Diesel styles that don't verge on the outlandish.

    The one thing Diesel definitely has going for it, besides a timeless look (which, let's face it, Levis can offer), is incredibly high quality construction and fabrics. I've yet to wear out - or even put a hole in - a pair of Diesels. On the other hand, both I and my wife have ripped PDCs. Diesel is also, at least in Canada, about 35% cheaper than PDC or Seven (but considerably more expensive than almost anything else).
     
  4. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    While I much prefer the styling of Paper Denims, I have to agree with Mikef that Diesels seem undestructible. I tend to be quite hard on my clothes, and my jeans in particular, and it is a miracle if a favoured pair (which is washed at least once a week) makes it over a year and a half without disintegrating - so I go for whatever pair I like at the moment, secure in the fact that they will most likely not outlast my whim. I've just worn out a pair of Sevens (at the crotch and seat, so that is that, and I've worn out at least a couple of pair of Paper Denims, although in their defense, they lasted nearly 2 years. A favorite pair of Levi's Premium didn't even see out the year. On the other hand, I have a pair of three, nearly four year old pair of Diesel Kratts (the "flattened wash" that was popular in about 2000,) worn constantly for about a year and a half and still regularly after that, that only now seem to show some wear. Amazing, really.
     
  5. VMan

    VMan Senior member

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    LA Guy,

    By worn out, do you mean the wash faded away, or the jeans literally shredded apart?
     
  6. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    Shredded. It depends on your gait and activities where your jeans wear out. Mine invariably disintegrate at the crotch first (save your jokes.)
     
  7. j

    j Senior member Admin

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    LA Guy, I would think the disintegration might have something to do with your washing them at least once a week. That seems very excessive. Would you wash (or clean) any other pants once a week?
     
  8. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    Well, I don't wear other pants as often and as hard, so I don't need to wash them as often. I usually allow two, maybe three wearings between a wash; and for a favorite pair of jeans, this comes frequently. I know some guys who will wear their jeans until they are ripe; but for some reason I love the feel of a fresh laundry.
     
  9. norcaltransplant

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    I must be the aberrant jeans shopper. I've tried Seven, PDC, and Diesel after reading about them on this forum and others, yet, I still haven't been impressed enough to add ANY of these brands to my closet.

    PDC seem to be the most expensive and most difficult to find on discount. I also swam in the two pairs I tried on. I tend to favor slim cuts (think twiggy body type).

    Diesel: I was closest to buying a pair of Diesels in distressed wash, but couldn't be swayed against buying Diesel compared to my standbys (see below).

    Seven: I couldn't get past the psychological barrier of having the "swish" stiching on my butt (I've been trained to appreciate a nicely swishing "swish"...). Sevens also fit way too low. Now where did my inseam go to?

    My jeans:
    Helmut Lang- the dry clean only label sucks, but they can be definitely worn a few times before heading to the cleaners. HLs just look classic...and a bit more dressy than standard Levis.

    Theory: All cotton with a bit of lycra. Theory cuts waaay too slim, but they are extremely confortable if you buy a size or two larger than your normal trouser size. My fav.

    Hugo Boss Red Label: Nice slim cut. I bought them for $40. Their wash still looks good after two months of wear. I can't complain so far.
     
  10. unappliedscience

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    I don't think Seven look too trendy. Yeah, you can tell just by looking at it that it's Seven but I always thought their washes tend to be subtle compared to, of course, Diesel or Energie, or even with some PDC models that have holes around thighs.
     
  11. Joe G

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    Unless they're black, you can safely ignore the dry-clean label and just wash them regularly. I saw that on a pair of my wife's HL jeans, after they had been washed a few times, and laughed.

    As for me, I find myself wearing less expensive jeans from Sisley and Zara, mostly. But truth be told I favour moleskins or other kinds of casual trousers over jeans these days.

    Peace,

    JG
     
  12. A Harris

    A Harris Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Welcome back Joe. Where've you been??
     
  13. hermes

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    the dry clean only label on helmut lang jeans should only be religiously observed if they are the raw denim jeans, which will lose their finish and shrink a whole size if you wash them (in theory you could buy one size up and hope they shrink appropriately); otherwise, all other helmut lang jeans can be washed

    you can try dryel at home on the dry clean only ones, i've have good success with that as well
     
  14. Joe G

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    It's nice to be back. As for what I've been doing, hmmm...getting married, establishing a new career, spending far too much time dealing with car problems.... And not wearing jeans very much. [​IMG] Peace, JG
     
  15. A Harris

    A Harris Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Sounds like good excuses to me... [​IMG]
     
  16. Jill

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    Does anyone make a nice vintage wash of some sort that is NOT slender and low waisted? Some guys' legs are too short and stocky to wear them well. I'm not really concerned about price or cache. Just looking for a good looking jean for my guy that's NOT a Levi 501.
     
  17. Pink22m

    Pink22m Senior member

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    I have had good luck with all 3 pairs of my Zegna jeans, two of which are the herringbone, 6oz models.
     
  18. Brian SD

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    Talk about thread resurrection..

    Diesel Kuratt are pretty roomy. They are a straight leg (not tapered like 501). I think Edwin jeans are pretty roomy as well, and they are high rise. They have some great washes and the denim quality is superlative.
     
  19. amirrorcrackd

    amirrorcrackd Senior member

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    J. Lindeberg jeans are slim, despite what anyone else may have said. Lindeberg stuff is often outlandish, but cut very well usually. Unfortunately, quality isn't really top-notch. My favorite aspect about Lindeberg is that they cut trousers the same way, slim, and with a boot-cut/flare.

    Dan
     
  20. philosophe

    philosophe Senior member

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    G "symbol" jeans are a medium rise and medium-full leg. I almost bought a pair but couldn't bring myself to plunk down $185.
     

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