Deer bone for shell cordovan shoes

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  1. FCS

    FCS Senior member

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    Now I get my first shell cordovan shoes, I think I'll need those bones that people were talking about for polishing and smoothing creases on shell cordovan shoes. Any suggestion where to get those bones?
     


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    If my memory serves me correctly, in historic St. James's in London, England, there is a store by the name of Lobb.... ALLEZ LOBB........
     


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    I do believe there was a website listing pictures and prices. Do a Search on "deer bone" and see what you come up with. I remember the prices to be quite exorbitant. I'm tempted to just find myself a deer and get its bones the old-fashioned way.
     


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    You can find the hind shin bone of a deer for this purpose, although the American ones seem smaller and less dense than the Red Deer of England; there are a number of ways to treat this bone. If you are interested, send me a PM for info on how to prepare this bone for use, based on some stuff I learned recently at a get together of bootmakers.

    Alternatively, a number of bookbinding sites sell bones folding tools which can be used for rubbing down cordovan.
     


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    That's the real man's way. Don't use a gun either. Just climb a tree, wait for one to come by, and pounce.
     


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    Yes, I'm no expert on the differences in bone, but I would imagine that other bone would work. I have a bone folder used for bookarts and bookbinding (which is what I have it for), but I would guess it would make an excellent subsitute for the deer bone at a bargain price. Here's an example. They're usually pointed on one end and rounded on the other as pictured.
     


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    I was wondering that myself. Is there a real difference? Perhaps the deer bone is much smoother, and therefore works better without damaging the leather?
     


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    My bone folder is very smooth. I'm sure it's been polished. I can't imagine a real difference, but I'll have my Dad get a deer bone for me in a few weeks the old fashioned way. [​IMG]
     


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    Thank you guys for the infos. Alan, what kind of bone are those bone folders? And how big is the large one?
     


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    If you can tell me which bone you need, I might be able to get one for you.

    Oh, and by the way, what the bloody hell are you talking about?
     


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    Here you go, they sell waxed leather/calf riding boots and deer bones for 10 pounds. Â Unfortuntately, the bones cannot be exported (similar restrictins with Lobb?) - apparently concerned about mad Doe/Buck disease. Â In any case, once you get the bone, I'm damned if I can find any instructions on its proper use. Â Apparently, if you're meant to know - you'll know. Â A bit of British esoterica intended only for the initiated: http://www.horacebatten.co.uk/Page7.h.... Batten
     


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    ok people, sorry, but I have no f***ing idea what you are talking about, but if it will get more life out of my shoes, I am for it. Can somebody please explain what you use this bone for, and if it works on boxcalf?
     


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    This page provides some small explanation: Batten
     


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    thanks rocker
     


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    I suspect they are common bovine bone (ie, cow). The one I have is probably "large" and measures to about 8" long (to the point) and not quite 1" wide. I've had mine for several years and don't recall exactly where I bought it now.
     


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