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Decent Made to Measure Tailors around the Golden Horseshoe

Discussion in 'Menswear Advice' started by MattJB, Jan 5, 2019.

  1. MattJB

    MattJB Member

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    I've spent a few days looking through the forums to find the best options in southern Ontario for a made to measure suit (it seems being in Canada is my 1st problem). Most of what I'm coming across is from 8 or more years ago (and mainly focused in Toronto), and I'm wondering if there are any new suggestions outside the downtown core.

    I have no experience (other than tip top tailors) with buying a suit and am looking for my first decent suit. I have at least 3 weddings this coming summer and It's time. I live out in the country so I'd prefer to go to smaller cities (Guelph, Kitchener/Waterloo, Oakville). I would prefer to avoid downtown Toronto, but if that's by far the best option then I can make do.

    -Bespoke is out of my price range.
    -MTM is preferred, but I'm a little worried about not being able to try it on before buying.
    -OTR is obviously an option, but I'm concerned that it will be difficult to get a brand, style, colour and quality that I'm looking for at a good deal(sale) all at the same time.

    From what I've come across:
    -Harry Rosen MTM seems to be a good simple option in my price range (~$1000 - $1500); however, the more I look the more I'm starting to see mixed reviews about their MTM service
    -Maxwell Clothiers (MR. PAUL WONG) will be close by later this month; however, I'm also looking for a bit of style/quality advise too as I'm quite ignorant on certain things, and am not sure how the process would go with them being in HK
    -Robert Jones; they don't have many details on their site, and I can't seem to find many reviews
    -Garrison seems over the top, more about the experience than anything else
    -Haiiy & Sons; they dont have many details on their site, and I can't seem to find many reviews
    -There are some other places in smaller cities that I've come across that don't have many details on their site as well

    As far as brand; It seems that Samuelsohn, Coppley and S. Cohen are probably the best options, which I was happy to find; however the more I research, the more I find emphasis on how important the actual tailor/salesman must be, which now has me worried because I don't want to walk into somewhere like HR and end up with an ill-fitting suit because by luck of the draw I ended up with some bone head.

    The main wedding next year will be a British countryside wedding. I'm looking for a solid, modern fitting, dusty or medium blue suit. I plan on wearing suspenders, and possibly a vest. I recent picked up my 1st pair of "well made" shoes (https://global.allenedmonds.com/all...F31320.html?dwvar_SF31320_color=31320#start=1) the darker brown ones.

    Any, and all advice/suggestions/referrals are extremely appreciated, and I apologize for the long post!
     

  2. breakaway01

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    I am not in Ontario but Spier and Mackay makes very good OTR jackets and suits particularly for their price. I have a couple of jackets and you’d be hard pressed to tell the difference between them and jackets costing 4x more. They have an MTM program but I have no direct experience with it. They have a Mississauga location.
     

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    Totally agree. Don't go anywhere else, at least to start; you're not going to find a better price /quality ratio anywhere. I find it worth the three hours' drive from where I live in Rochester, New York.
     

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    Thanks for the replies; I was looking at S&M for shirts a couple years back, I didn't know they were so recommended for suits. Their OTR prices seem quite low which made me a little skeptical.

    I notice they have a shop by the airport and one downtown, is there much of a difference between the two if either of you have been to both?

    @mlstein Do you have experience with their MTM suits, or only OTR? There's doesn't seem to be any info online beyond their MTM shirts.
     

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    The MTM suit program requires an in-person appointment—they do not offer online MTM at this time so that’s probably why it’s not described on their website.
    I doubt you’ll find someone who has had an MTM suit made at both locations. S&M seems like an honest operation, perhaps best just to give them a call and ask them what they’d recommend.
     

  6. mlstein

    mlstein Well-Known Member

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    Don't be suspicious of the low prices. Check out the very enthusiastic fans on this forum, or Derek Guy or https://putthison.com/spier-and-mackay-jacket-review/; their suits are the real deal. I will confess that I have no experience with MTM, since I fit their 38s Contemporary fit perfectly, but what I hear online is very favorable.

    The Mississauga store is the main one, with a much bigger selection (and parking, too).
     

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    Perfect, that works best for me.

    Thank you to you both. I'll definitely go have a look.
     

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    mlstein Well-Known Member

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    Best of luck!
     

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    I used to get stuff at Garrison Bespoke but they've priced themselves out of my range. I emailed them back in the summer and the sales person that replied told me that their average client spend per suit was $8,000 - $10,000. I said I was looking for something cheaper and I never got a reply.

    The Dirty is run by a former Garrison employee and is nearby on King. He takes a little longer as it's a smaller operation but it's the same quality as Garrison, he offers a ton of customization, and very fair prices.
     

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    I have had very good experience with Maxwell Clothiers (MR. PAUL WONG), but I know my measurements and exactly how long the jacket is to be and usually I will bring a favourite fitting jacket and pants to make sure they know exactly what I am looking for. Have not been disappointed.
     

  11. MattJB

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    Garrison is advertising 2 made to measure tiers starting at $995 & $1800; those are clearly not bespoke though. Is The Dirty even cheaper then that? or does he only offer true bespoke?

    Sounds like a good option down the road. Feels like it's best to figure out what fits me; and which styles I prefer before doing something like that. Unless you've found they're quite good at style advice?
     

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    My understanding is that he offers MTM and bespoke. I'd suggest following up with him directly as I haven't asked about MTM suits and I don't want to misspeak.
     

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