Dack's shoes question

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Rampart, Dec 27, 2011.

  1. szachu

    szachu New Member

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    Do you know any website where people would be interested in purchase this pair of shose? Im not sure in Poland someone will appreciate the value of this shoes.
     


  2. COLONEL77

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    I STILL HAVE MY PAIR OF CORFAM GOLF SHOES, EXACTLY AS SHOWN IN THESE PHOTOGRAPHS BUT WITH A DIFFERENT HEEL SOCK, WHICH ARE AT LEAST 42 YEARS OLD AND ARE STILL IN GREAT SHAPE AS DID NOT WEAR THESE THAT MUCH HAVING OTHER GOLF SHOES TO WEAR ... INTERESTING TO SEE THIS PAIR COMING TO LIGHT IN POLAND AND HAVING NOT BEEN WORN AND LOOKING LIKE RIGHT FROM THE BOX.
     


  3. curzon

    curzon Senior member

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    Had Dack's been able to produce the much sought after black & white co-respondent short wings in panda I'm certain the final chapter wouldn't have been written. Panda leather... so supple; acquires an unrivaled patina. :drool:
     
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  4. daxman

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    In fact, rhino was only ever a few pair made out of a very small batch of leather and the sealskin production ended many years before the company folded. These were clearly not deciding factors. It was much more about a lack of vision and foresight at the highest levels. Daxman.
     


  5. Towers

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    Has dacks ever used any other english maker aside from cheaney?
     


  6. Wrenkin

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    They were owned by Church's.
     


  7. MyOtherLife

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    A lot of now-vintage Dack's models are almost identical to Church's of that era. I wonder if they weren't actually Church's made in Canada. Either way they were of wonderful quality and made to last a lifetime or two.
     
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  8. Towers

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    I have a pair of dufferins that were made in england, i think they were made by cheaney but i can't be sure, is there any way to distinguish church's era from cheaney's era dacks?
     
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  9. Doctor Damage

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    What do the numbers/letters inside say?

    Church's didn't make the Dufferin model for Dack's, at least not anytime in the last 20 years. The Dufferin was made in the Dack's factory in a suburb of Toronto (and possibly Halifax/Nova Soctia), and then, once the factory ceased operations, were rebadged from Cheaney for several years before the bankruptcy.
     


  10. daxman

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    As a point of information , the East Coast Dack factory was located in Fredricton, New Brunswick. The old factory , opened about 1900 , was the Hartt Shoe facility which Dacks purchased in 1957. About the Dufferin , this was a Canadian made Dack on their own last and anything made later out of England / Cheaney was with their last. These had a totally different numbering system and were usually available only in F width ( that extra wide size that some of the posters seem to like to debate with me about). Daxman.
     


  11. Towers

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    They must be Cheaneys then, they are stamped made in England and look fairly recent;
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  12. MyOtherLife

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    Did not Hartt make shoes for Eatons? or was this the Dack's-owned Hartt chapter?
     


  13. daxman

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    After Dacks purchased the Hartt Factory (in 1957) they continued to use the Hartt name for the wholesale end of the Dack business. The same shoe line was marketed in Dack Stores under their name but the same styles going to all other accounts --independent shoe stores and Department stores -- were marked with the Hartt sockliner and boxes.
     


  14. COLONEL77

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    NO CHURCH'S SHOES WERE EVER PRODUCED IN CANADA BY DACK'S / HARTT AS ALL THEIR TOTAL PRODUCTION WERE TURNED OUT IN MAIN FACTORY IN NORTHAMPTON THEN SENT OUT AROUND WORLD, MOSTLY TO U.S.A. / CANADA / EUROPE / AUSTRALIA / OTHER SPOTS ...

    DACK'S WERE SOLD ACROSS CANADA IN ALL EATON'S STORES WHILE THE HARTT LINE, OFTEN WITH SIMILAR / EXACT STYLES WITH THE DIFFERENT HARTT HEEL SOCK / SOLE STAMP WERE SOLD ONLY IN SIMPSON'S STORES ...

    ADDITIONALLY, WE HAD OVER 500 ' DEALERS ' MADE UP OF MANY SHOE STORES AND HIGH-END MENS CLOTHIERS WHO CARRIED SOME OF EITHER LINE, WITH SOME STORES SELLING A LARGE VOLUME WHILE MANY ORDERED WHATEVER THEY HAD REQUESTS FOR AT WHICH THESE WERE SHIPPED OFF BY CANPAR / SENT BY BUS LINES TO REMOTE AREAS / FLOWN OUT ON MOSTLY TRANS CANADA AIRLINES INITIALLY, THEN AIR CANADA AIRCRAFT / OR EVEN HAND DELIVERED TO OTHER STORES BY PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF AND / OR OUR OTHER SALES PERSONNEL ACROSS THE COUNTRY ...

    IN RESPONSE TO TOWERS ...

    FROM THE LATE 1940s, AND FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS INTO THE LATE 1960s, DACK'S / HARTT ALSO HAD SHOES MADE IN ENGLAND BY WILLIAM GREEN & SONS ( GRENSON ), IN ADDITION TO THOSE MADE FROM THOSE DAYS TO MUCH LATER ON UNTIL THE END IN 2009 BY DICK CHEANEY ...

    FURTHER FACTUAL CORPORATE INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE, ONE ONLY NEEDS TO ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS, AT WHICH ALL SHALL BE REVEALED ...

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH ...

    COLONEL 77
     
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  15. Martin B

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    Hello. Stumbled onto your very interesting forum several days ago. I'm an almost 65 year fan of Dack's and Hartt's shoes. Started wearing and sellling (part-time going to school) Hartt's at age 15. When one wears a 13 1/2, one had to choose from the best since there were few options at the time. I think that I can contribute some interesting information as time goes by, but right now I would like to ask "tonylamer" if he still has the Camel oxfords, size 14 that he mentioned in his message of 2 Oct. I have had a pair of Camel leather slip-ons for many years.They have been some comfortable and still look pretty good despite one nice rebuild at Dack's and some not so nice work done at a local shoe repair shop. The style number is 7828 on Last number 87 (the square toe last). I believe that they started life as Hartt's, but now carry a Dack's heel seat as a result of the rebuild. There are six distinctive half inch "cords", three on each side of the extended vamp. Anyway, I can wear a 14 D (that's the Medium D now) and would be interested in those plain toe oxfords.

    I have a question for Matthew Dack and Daxman. I have forgotten what two of the numbers stamped on the heel lining refer to. For example: my Camel slip-ons show: 4135 7828 15, then on the second row: 421115 87. What does the 15 and the 421115 mean?
     


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