Custom White's Boots ... Thoughts?

[Scooterputtputt]

So, for the last few months I have been wearing 690/695 boots. This morning I switched back to my old bounty hunters and man do I feel like these boots have no arch support.
I should have tried 690/695 last before I decided to order four pairs of Bounty Hunters. Well, what do they say "You live, you learn"

Same here brother! Would gladly exchange any last for a 690-695. Fell into one of each from a distinguished member here. Snagged a vintage 695 whites also. Interesting enough, all three are my brannock size. Where as it’s usually half size down on other lasts. Was under the assumption you sized down even more on the packers. Memory serves me right, your also a brannock 12d right?

 

[Jimk4003]

Dude, I am overdue for a visit to UK!

When you make it over, and given the topic we've just been discussing, I'd highly recommend a visit to Aero Leathers in Galashiels in the Scottish borders.

I dropped in yesterday to try some leather jackets out, and it was awesome. It's a tiny little factory down a lane, and when you go in, you can see all the workers sat at their tables cutting the leather and sewing the jackets together.

I was in the showroom getting fitted by Denny (the son of the founder who now runs the place, and a genuinely nice man), and when I'd settled on the style I liked, he disappeared off to see if he could find any more models in my size. Five minutes later, he comes back holding a beautiful black horsehide Chromexcel jacket in my size, and says, 'this one's literally just been finished, do you want to try it on?'

It fitted perfectly, so I decided that fate was trying to tell me something, and bought it there and then. When I went to pay, the jacket was so fresh out of production they hadn't even priced it up yet!

Awesome experience, and Aero make world renowned leather jackets. I'd definitely recommend a visit if you're over here and looking for a fun leather/ menswear experience.

 

[Scooterputtputt]

I hope fellow members won’t take offense to this but there is a tiny amount of “misinformation” on this thread

One is about how different lasts fit, I say go ahead and try 690/695 lasts if you have super high arched feet and don’t worry about the fit. Kyle Baker and Brandon Baker’s skills are second to none!

The other is about CXL leather and my point of view is based on
1) I couldn't find a single pic of White's boots in CXL with bad clicking. Of course! I don't mind being proven wrong lol
2) One might say CXL is CXL but that's not correct and although I have CXL boots from only two companies, White's and Allen Edmonds. The CXL White's uses is different and thicker (better?) than Allen Edmonds!! Allen Edmonds lines their CXL too and their CXL is not bad but White's' CXL belongs to a different league.

Seems you mentioned before your horsehide has developed more creasing than the cxl right? Have thought of that as my bounty Hunter burgundy horse has broken in. Very little creasing on these, but still unusually stiff.

 

[Scooterputtputt]

When you make it over, and given the topic we've just been discussing, I'd highly recommend a visit to Aero Leathers in Galashiels in the Scottish borders.

I dropped in yesterday to try some leather jackets out, and it was awesome. It's a tiny little factory down a lane, and when you go in, you can see all the workers sat at their tables cutting the leather and sewing the jackets together.

I was in the showroom getting fitted by Denny (the son of the founder who now runs the place, and a genuinely nice man), and when I'd settled on the style I liked, he disappeared off to see if he could find any more models in my size. Five minutes later, he comes back holding a beautiful black horsehide Chromexcel jacket in my size, and says, 'this one's literally just been finished, do you want to try it on?'

It fitted perfectly, so I decided that fate was trying to tell me something, and bought it there and then. When I went to pay, the jacket was so fresh out of production they hadn't even priced it up yet!

Awesome experience, and Aero make world renowned leather jackets. I'd definitely recommend a visit if you're over here and looking for a fun leather/ menswear experience.

That’s a beautiful story! Got to love it when it’s meant to be. Now, some black horsehide packers to go with it. Right chicagoan2016!

 

[Jimk4003]

That’s a beautiful story! Got to love it when it’s meant to be. Now, some black horsehide packers to go with it. Right chicagoan2016!

Weird thing is, I don't actually own any casual black boots!

My attitude is that black leather jackets are pretty timeless, and go with anything.

 

[Percivilla]

It's wild how much variation CXL can have.

I've had the following:

Wolverine 1k from around 2011: Really thin, every piece of the boot seemingly had a different temper and creased differently. Some really bad creasing on some of the pieces. Not a supportive boot, they were like wearing a leather bag on your foot.

Viberg 2030 Color #8 from around 2012: THICK and absolutely perfect clicking. No bad creasing anywhere. Unfortunately they killed my big toes due to the 2030 shape and had to sell.

Whites MP olive waxed flesh from 2020: Thick and consistent, no bad creasing inside the boot (smooth side).

Viberg 1035 Natural waxed flesh from 2022: Not as thick as the White's or my old #8 2030's, but still pretty thick. Feels "stretcher" than the White's. Flesh out side is "nicer"? than the whites, it's shinier, smoother and harder. Doesn't even really look like waxed flesh. Inside has some bad CXL creasing but at least it's on the inside.

 

[Scooterputtputt]

Weird thing is, I don't actually own any casual black boots!

My attitude is that black leather jackets are pretty timeless, and go with anything.

Thinking it’s time though.We can help to come up with a dream, it’s meant to be build. Just say the word.

 

[Jimk4003]

Thinking it’s time though.We can help to come up with a dream, it’s meant to be build. Just say the word.

Behave yourself, I've just dropped £700 on a new jacket.

What do you have in mind though...🤔

 

[Jimk4003]

It's wild how much variation CXL can have.

I've had the following:

Wolverine 1k from around 2011: Really thin, every piece of the boot seemingly had a different temper and creased differently. Some really bad creasing on some of the pieces. Not a supportive boot, they were like wearing a leather bag on your foot.

Viberg 2030 Color #8 from around 2012: THICK and absolutely perfect clicking. No bad creasing anywhere. Unfortunately they killed my big toes due to the 2030 shape and had to sell.

Whites MP olive waxed flesh from 2020: Thick and consistent, no bad creasing inside the boot (smooth side).

Viberg 1035 Natural waxed flesh from 2022: Not as thick as the White's or my old #8 2030's, but still pretty thick. Feels "stretcher" than the White's. Flesh out side is "nicer"? than the whites, it's shinier, smoother and harder. Doesn't even really look like waxed flesh. Inside has some bad CXL creasing but at least it's on the inside.

I think that's CXL in a nutshell; Horween acknowledge that it's prone to creasing, and there's nothing the clicker can do to change the natural traits of the leather. It's not a 'defect', it's just something the leather does from time-to-time.

I've had the waxed flesh on my MP's crease pretty heavily, but like you say, it's on the inside anyway.

 

[Scooterputtputt]

Behave yourself, I've just dropped £700 on a new jacket.

What do you have in mind though...🤔

 

[chicagoan2016]

Same here brother! Would gladly exchange any last for a 690-695. Fell into one of each from a distinguished member here. Snagged a vintage 695 whites also. Interesting enough, all three are my brannock size. Where as it’s usually half size down on other lasts. Was under the assumption you sized down even more on the packers.

I am down the 690/695 rabbit hole already! Waiting on some Burgundy pointed toe packers.

Memory serves me right, your also a brannock 12d right?

My feet are weird, my left foot is 12.5EE and right is just under 12.5EE. Baker's sized me 12E with combo last.
I will look at my packers and pointed toe packers box this evening, wanted to make sure If I am the same size.

 

[chicagoan2016]

Seems you mentioned before your horsehide has developed more creasing than the cxl right? Have thought of that as my bounty Hunter burgundy horse has broken in. Very little creasing on these, but still unusually stiff.

Yes my burgundy HH bounty hunters.
I love that HH doesn't stretch much if at all. It pretty much stays the same.
My work leathers (brown and red dog) and British tan cxl have stretched but not in a bad way.

 

[chicagoan2016]

When you make it over, and given the topic we've just been discussing, I'd highly recommend a visit to Aero Leathers in Galashiels in the Scottish borders.

I dropped in yesterday to try some leather jackets out, and it was awesome. It's a tiny little factory down a lane, and when you go in, you can see all the workers sat at their tables cutting the leather and sewing the jackets together.

I was in the showroom getting fitted by Denny (the son of the founder who now runs the place, and a genuinely nice man), and when I'd settled on the style I liked, he disappeared off to see if he could find any more models in my size. Five minutes later, he comes back holding a beautiful black horsehide Chromexcel jacket in my size, and says, 'this one's literally just been finished, do you want to try it on?'

It fitted perfectly, so I decided that fate was trying to tell me something, and bought it there and then. When I went to pay, the jacket was so fresh out of production they hadn't even priced it up yet!

Awesome experience, and Aero make world renowned leather jackets. I'd definitely recommend a visit if you're over here and looking for a fun leather/ menswear experience.

Definitely Scotland this time, have only been to London and Birmingham, I probably mentioned a few days ago that I would love to work/live in the UK for a little while.

 

[chicagoan2016]

That’s a beautiful story! Got to love it when it’s meant to be. Now, some black horsehide packers to go with it. Right chicagoan2016!

You are psychic, brother! I am talking to Kyle about Black HH bounty hunters which I am going to change to 690 last lol

 

[chicagoan2016]

When you make it over, and given the topic we've just been discussing, I'd highly recommend a visit to Aero Leathers in Galashiels in the Scottish borders.

I dropped in yesterday to try some leather jackets out, and it was awesome. It's a tiny little factory down a lane, and when you go in, you can see all the workers sat at their tables cutting the leather and sewing the jackets together.

I was in the showroom getting fitted by Denny (the son of the founder who now runs the place, and a genuinely nice man), and when I'd settled on the style I liked, he disappeared off to see if he could find any more models in my size. Five minutes later, he comes back holding a beautiful black horsehide Chromexcel jacket in my size, and says, 'this one's literally just been finished, do you want to try it on?'

It fitted perfectly, so I decided that fate was trying to tell me something, and bought it there and then. When I went to pay, the jacket was so fresh out of production they hadn't even priced it up yet!

Awesome experience, and Aero make world renowned leather jackets. I'd definitely recommend a visit if you're over here and looking for a fun leather/ menswear experience.

Which one did you get?
Aero leather jackets