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Upon a second reading, you could be correct...

If the word "almost" was referring to the finishing on the flesh side, then Horween's statement could be reworded to read, "This leather is made... exactly the same way as our Chromexcel, [except for the fact that] we finish it on the flesh (or suede side) [instead of the smooth side].

In which case, I it matches my initial supposition, namely that "WF is really just CXL but finished on the flesh side".

Alas, we may never know for sure...
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Technically the correct thing to say would be: that both are tanned the same way, using the same time line and proprietary blend. They are finished differently.

Which shouldn't be shocking because most of Horween's leather catalog features leathers that have roughly the same processes and only vary by a step or two. Their tannage chart is quite informative and the similarities really shows.

 

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Upon a second reading, you could be correct...

If the word "almost" was referring to the finishing on the flesh side, then Horween's statement could be reworded to read, "This leather is made... exactly the same way as our Chromexcel, [except for the fact that] we finish it on the flesh (or suede side) [instead of the smooth side].

In which case, I it matches my initial supposition, namely that "WF is really just CXL but finished on the flesh side".

Alas, we may never know for sure...

It's CXL for boots -- all the bad breaks will be invisible on the inside of the boot and CXL's easy scuffing becomes kinda the point for that ratty-looking waxed flesh patina that so many seem to love. Heck, new WF can even take a wicked shine, so perhaps you should consider it!

I've always viewed WF as basically another roughout option, but pre-waxed and slightly thinner than the oil tan RO. In fact, in a few images I've seen of brown WF with the wax entirely removed it looks almost identical to distressed RO.
 

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Since we’re on the subject of WF, anybody have pics of olive WF with some wear on it? I’m trying to decide between that and the cinnamon WF for my next build. The olive looks great when new, but I’m wondering if I’ll like it with some wear.
 

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Since we’re on the subject of WF, anybody have pics of olive WF with some wear on it? I’m trying to decide between that and the cinnamon WF for my next build. The olive looks great when new, but I’m wondering if I’ll like it with some wear.
I can't decide about the leather for my third White's pair. I am thinking of dodging everything and go for my first choice, red dog leather!!!
 

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Since we’re on the subject of WF, anybody have pics of olive WF with some wear on it? I’m trying to decide between that and the cinnamon WF for my next build. The olive looks great when new, but I’m wondering if I’ll like it with some wear.
Since we’re on the subject of WF, anybody have pics of olive WF with some wear on it? I’m trying to decide between that and the cinnamon WF for my next build. The olive looks great when new, but I’m wondering if I’ll like it with some wear.
Light wear. It's a bit of a bugger to break in. On the plus side... contrast stitching.
 

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I can't decide about the leather for my third White's pair. I am thinking of dodging everything and go for my first choice, red dog leather!!!
What are the first two pair?
From a sartorial standpoint, I feel one needs (in order of priority) a brown pair, a black pair, and a burgundy pair.

Once those essential categories are filled, one can branch out to a natural, various shades of brown, or other colors and textures like red dog, olive, waxed flesh, rough out, and other species such as bison or horse, then you have your exotics and multiple boots and textures in the same color, different soles and options, etc.... but your basic triad is brown, black, and burgundy...

That's my opinion, I welcome others...
 

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What are the first two pair?
From a sartorial standpoint, I feel one needs (in order of priority) a brown pair, a black pair, and a burgundy pair.

Once those essential categories are filled, one can branch out to a natural, various shades of brown, or other colors and textures like red dog, olive, waxed flesh, rough out, and other species such as bison or horse, then you have your exotics and multiple boots and textures in the same color, different soles and options, etc.... but your basic triad is brown, black, and burgundy...

That's my opinion, I welcome others...
The two pairs that I have ordered, are British tan and burgundy HH. I want to order a pointed toe packers for variety and arch support but can't decide about the leather.
 

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I can't decide about the leather for my third White's pair. I am thinking of dodging everything and go for my first choice, red dog leather!!!
I’m ahead of ya on that one, I ordered my second pair a month ago in Red Dog. I’ll hopefully have them soon. Their going to be work boots though and will see alot of oil and grease.
 

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I "wish" Horween would figure out the CXL issues. This Natural CXL bounty hunters are yummy



Confused. Many of us have natural CXL boots with no issues, myself included.
 

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Since we’re on the subject of WF, anybody have pics of olive WF with some wear on it? I’m trying to decide between that and the cinnamon WF for my next build. The olive looks great when new, but I’m wondering if I’ll like it with some wear.

These new/worn photos of Wesco Knuckle Draggers convinced me to stick with brown and black WF -- the olive WF on those turned an odd (to me) shade of bile green where it was worn and scuffed (last three photos).
 

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Confused. Many of us have natural CXL boots with no issues, myself included.
Share some pics please, folks here talk about CXL lottery on a regular basis.
 

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I "wish" Horween would figure out the CXL issues. This Natural CXL bounty hunters are yummy


If you're referring to the way CXL can sometimes crease heavily, it's not really an 'issue', insofar as it's considered 'within spec' for CXL.

I'm not wanting to kick off another CXL debate, but there are lots of people who have CXL boots without major creasing, and their are lots of people who have CXL boots with heavy creases who love the way they look.

It's more about knowing what you're getting into with CXL (as it is with any leather), than it is an issue with the product.
 

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I have a pair of WF bounty hunters coming next week. How was the break in on yours?

I concur with @montanamike about the stiffness of the leather at first. I have some newish WF MPs that felt stiff as a board out of the box and the uppers still feel a bit stiff even after a dozen or so wears. The opposite of the dress leathers (virtually no break in) and worse even than the oil tan RO, which although thicker is pretty supple when new. The wax on WF leather feels more like a crust.

Still, that didn't stop me just ordering another pair of WF boots (dark brown BHs)
 

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