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andy b.

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Damn! I never knew this was an option. I have narrow feet and the eyelets are less than 1" apart on almost every pair of footwear I own.
I have a pair of 8" Smokejumpers in distressed roughout ordered through Bakers that are in the build process now and I would have went for this option. Is there a name for such an option from the ankle to the shin to open the spacing there? I could use 1" of open spacing from above the arch all the way to the top of the lacing. LOL

We lace up the bottom 4 eyelets before lasting to help keep the proper finished lacing width. We use two finger widths for standard lacing. Open instep is laced very loose or not at all. Closed instep is almost together. If a customer always has issues with the eyelets lacing together, we will open the instep to help this problem.
 

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Well said:
The open or closed instep is merely one more way to tweak the way the instep fits and the laces come together.
 

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Well said:
The open or closed instep is merely one more way to tweak the way the instep fits and the laces come together.
@sambam so for clarity (because you know we obsess over this stuff) and to keep it simple, are you saying that:

Ordering an open instep will move eyelets further apart ("open instep opens the gap") if the eyelets are too close together; and

Ordering a closed instep will bring the eyelets closer together ("closed instep closes the gap") if the eyelets are too far apart.

Thank you for helping us understand...
 

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Has White's ruined other boots for you guys?

I just got a pair of Grant Stone Diesel boots. Fine boots with great finishing. They just don't feel 'right'. I was looking for something a little more versatile for nights out. The fit isn't bad but definitely don't have that White's Hand made feel. I think White's has just spoiled me.
Yes, they have. In the line of work I just started, I have to wear "duty boots". While I appreciate their light weight, the construction is crap. Unfortunately, I can not pursue well in a pair of Smokes! .
 

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Has White's ruined other boots for you guys?

I just got a pair of Grant Stone Diesel boots. Fine boots with great finishing. They just don't feel 'right'. I was looking for something a little more versatile for nights out. The fit isn't bad but definitely don't have that White's Hand made feel. I think White's has just spoiled me.
Yup... recently sold off every pair of Red Wing boots I owned (except a cozy pair of Moc Toe) boots.

They didn't fit the way White's do, they aren't "finished" nearly as well, and now that 4 other guys in the office own a pair of Iron Rangers in Copper RT leather, I was done. No one has a pair of MY designed White's.

I keep trying to convince folks to White's, but selfishly, I should just shut my pie hole!
 
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I still like my Aldens and have some other high end Japanese boots, but from a pure value perspective I don’t think Whites can be beat for a sub $500-ish boot given the MTO options. I’ll happily add more in the future as my collection grows.
 

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I have several non-White's pairs and basically my conclusion is that anything that's completely outside of the realm of what a White's would be, I appreciate, but for others that are somewhat in the same realm, White's wins hands down. For example, I have some Maine Mountain Moccasin field boots that I really like wearing, but the style, construction, and overall feel of the boots is just vastly different from White's.I also have some Fracap hikers that definitely beat my White's for extended hikes on rough terrain. But then, my other workboots and service boots just don't even come close.
 

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Nice interview on stitchdown with our very own @sambam. Worth the read.
Absolutely... thanks for the link...

I was surprised at this part:

"We do get some leathers from India, some real thin water buffaloes and calf and stuff like that, but we keep as much of it in the States as we can."

I would like to know which leathers are sourced from overseas... just out of curiosity...
 

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Why Trumans :(?
I had a less than good experience given the price of their boots - quality wise and customer care. The pairs I had were completely lacking symmetry, and by the time I got a response from someone there (after several unresponsive attempts over weeks) I had already sold them on ebay. So I've washed my hands of the brand. Last time I was in Boulder I hoped to get to their store, but by then they had just moved to Oregon.

Maybe I'm too picky, but none of these issues have come up with my White's, except maybe some emails to their customer care team that never got replies...

Plus, with some many White's, when and why would I wear anything else!
 

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I was a pretty big Danner Boots fan and I have about 9 pairs. I've been wearing that brand for the past 15 years or so.

The company that owns Danner also now owns White's. A few years ago, I was in a Danner showroom and saw a small display of White's Boots. The White's "bug" started with a pair of NFPA Black Smokejumpers.

Ever since I started expanding my White's collection, the Danners are just sitting in a cupboard.
 

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