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Just received my try-on pair of Dress Brown Semi Dress boots from Bakers in size 13EE. I'm pretty sure they fit me really well. Kyle had me as a 13.5E and I just wonder if 13EE vs 13.5E is essentially splitting hairs (i.e, arguing over 1-2 mm in length and width).

What do you guys think?
 

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How’s the toe box room - getting any rub on the pinky toe? Is the final cut gonna be soft toe - I find you can go a little tighter in that build.
 

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How’s the toe box room - getting any rub on the pinky toe? Is the final cut gonna be soft toe - I find you can go a little tighter in that build.
There's no rub at all on the pinky toe and my heel and arch feel pretty locked in. Length-wise, my big toe doesn't bump the front and isn't touching the roof either. As far as I can tell the "dress brown" leather is very hardy so I don't think it'll stretch much; not sure if going down to E width would be a good idea.

To be honest, they're such nice boots I'm divided whether I should keep them. They're not to the specification I want but good fitting shoes are so rare for me I might just keep them anyway.

They're very stock.

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Well they certainly look good and it sounds like the sizing is spot on (which is great!). Nobody would blame you for holding onto them but keep in mind you’ll have them forever. Always worth the wait to get exactly what you want.
On the other hand, once you get your first pair of White’s they tend to multiply...
 

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I believe that all boots break in to a certain degree. If they feel good now, with no issues, they will only get better. I’d keep them and add exactly what you want later. After wearing those you may change your mind of what you desire later. Stock is made that way because that is a combination that works so well together. It’s a journey, enjoy every step of the way. You will have plenty of opportunities to build your collection. Lol
 

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There's no rub at all on the pinky toe and my heel and arch feel pretty locked in. Length-wise, my big toe doesn't bump the front and isn't touching the roof either. As far as I can tell the "dress brown" leather is very hardy so I don't think it'll stretch much; not sure if going down to E width would be a good idea.

To be honest, they're such nice boots I'm divided whether I should keep them. They're not to the specification I want but good fitting shoes are so rare for me I might just keep them anyway.

They're very stock.

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I think I’d order the make up I wanted in the same size. But I guess depends on how different it would be..
 

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So I think the make-up I want is a semi dress in brown dress leather, but with a soft toe, a toe cap and maybe the vibram 430 mini lug. On closer inspection on Bakershoe.com, soft-toe doesn't seem to be an option; I can only choose between single celastic or double celastic. Do they not offer a soft toe on the semi-dress boot?

As for the toe-cap, I think it's a bit of a shame that the toe cap on SD and Bounty Hunters only has a single stich. The MP boots have like, 4 stiches for detail. I think the medallion toe looks quite nice though.

Man, decisions are something I'm awful at :brick:
 

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The cap & structure combo is a pain at Bakers. Either you go to the Build-a-Boot site for one set of options, or the custom SD/BH for another.
Best bet is to call in & place your order directly with Kyle... or email him; once he starts dialing with you he’s quite snappy at responding.
Kyle can arrange for double toe stitch or any combo of Medalion & uninstructed, etc.

My 2 cents: Medallion Toe Cap is total class but never over-stated. Do it! Soft/Unstructured toe is something that must be experienced as it is glorious! Also turns into a lovely, sleek profile. As for the sole, that’s a totally personal choice. Gotta decide if you want to be able use a shovel in those boots or not. Oak Leather is a real treat if it fits your regimen
 

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normally I wear steeltoe boots M-F so it was a treat to rock the HH SD’s for a business conference this week. over 500 people in attendance & the Horse Hide Semi-Dress boots outclassed anything it came across, esp. with the brogue/medallion toe cap. The best part is that they totally dress up some nice denim on a Friday but never look pretentious in a business casual outfit. Cinnamon Wax from today while playing fetch with my lab, Owen-bear

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normally I wear steeltoe boots M-F so it was a treat to rock the HH SD’s for a business conference this week. over 500 people in attendance & the Horse Hide Semi-Dress boots outclassed anything it came across, esp. with the brogue/medallion toe cap. The best part is that they totally dress up some nice denim on a Friday but never look pretentious in a business casual outfit. Cinnamon Wax from today while playing fetch with my lab, Owen-bear

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normally I wear steeltoe boots M-F so it was a treat to rock the HH SD’s for a business conference this week. over 500 people in attendance & the Horse Hide Semi-Dress boots outclassed anything it came across, esp. with the brogue/medallion toe cap. The best part is that they totally dress up some nice denim on a Friday but never look pretentious in a business casual outfit. Cinnamon Wax from today while playing fetch with my lab, Owen-bear

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Those HH look great! I share your preference for the soft toe and eventually will have the celastic removed on my HH. Great pictures
 
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I just wanted to send a collective thank you to the participants of this thread. I received my first White's today (brown HH Bounty Hunters with soft-toe and woodsman heel) and I'm completely blown away. I credit this thread for providing excellent help with sizing and make-up details.

Couple of initial scattered thoughts:

- Because they are so overbuilt, I was expecting a lengthy, terrible break-in. After 6 hours they are incredibly comfortable. Only my RM Williams are in the same comfort realm. I have flat-ish feet and was worried about the arch-ease. It's great. I'm totally sold on the arch-ease. I now regret that all of my other boots don't have as good arch support.

- The standard/Woodsman heel. Amazing. I live on a sloped property and only now -- after walking around on hills -- do I understand the functional benefit of this heel design. The reduced surface of the heel allows for more force per unit surface area...and the shape allows you to precisely manipulate the heel-edge for control while ascending/descending hilly terrain. I just get it now.

- The Horsehide leather. I was expecting this leather to be similar to Viberg's horsebutt. But they are completely different. This horsehide is much more supple and seems to be breaking in differently. After only a few hours, I can tell the "microcreasing" description is spot on. I see microcreasing and broader rolls...a much different crease pattern from either horsebutt or cowhide.

- Unstructured Toe: This is my first unstructured toe. I've seen examples on the bounty hunter that range from beautiful to sorta mangled looking. We'll see how the toe area develops, but right now I'm really pleased with the decision to go unstructured. Feels like I'm wearing slippers and I'm really, really liking the top and side profiles.
 
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