Custom White's Boots ... Thoughts?

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  1. fuzzyearlobes

    fuzzyearlobes Senior member

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    the CXL wont stretch as readily as the samples did. My samples were really stretchy but my boots are nowhere near as stretchy. If that makes sense...

    That said, I found the CXL to have more character than the other dress leathers I was also considering. Not to say they are bad, in fact they are excellent, but they just seemed more basic and run of the mill. The cxl took on characteristics, scratches, and what not.
     
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  2. Whacky

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    To post about sizing using the old school method of tracing your foot and sending it via paper to whites....

    I did that with my first pair of Semi Dress boots I had ordered, and send it via snail-mail.
    Boots ended up fitting better than any other boot or shoe I've ever owned.

    Now, the stamp on the inside of the boot read 10.5D, so I had Kyle and Bakers make my second pair in the standard 10.5 according to Whites.
    I'll keep people posted when the boots come in as to how they fit.

    Looking forward to my natural chromexcel boots.

    Anybody got any advise on letting the natural chromexcel leather age properly into a nice patina?
    I've been using Obenaufs on my Semi Dress and it works great, But I'm afraid it would darken the narual color too much for my liking.
    Is there anything special the Natural Chromexcel would need to look great with age without taking away its soft tone?
     


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    well, it is [that] other animal. on Custom White's you can order the width from AA= narrowest to FF= widest. also, the choice of last & leather will mosdef affect right sizing..

    i take a 9E Smoke Jumper on their smooth or rough-out leather, but would have to go 9D on CXL
    however, on Semi Dress [w/c have different types of semidress lasts], i take 8.5D on the "swing" last & prolly 8.5C on CXL.
     
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  4. fuzzyearlobes

    fuzzyearlobes Senior member

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    i would just let them be for a while. Hollows has a pair, so maybe he can shed some light. I have a pair of natural cxl oak streets that I traded for. When i got them, they were pretty dry. I gave them a light obenauf's, and put some shoe trees in for two days. Fixed them right up. Since then, they have darkened naturally considerably. So, unless they arrive really dry, just let them be natural, and after a couple months, then hit them with the obenaufs. Thats what I would do at least.
     


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    I'll see if I can -- I don't do much digital photography, but I'll try. Not sure how much will be shown with the four inch samples though. The real benefit is being able to feel them. There are clear differences in thickness and texture. From thick to thin, they go: Oil Tan (very thick), Chromexcel (slightly less thick, and very supple), Dress (less thick than CXL, but stiffer) [[Don't think I am not catching the double entendres here!]], and Calfskin (thinnest and shiniest of all).

    As a couple of people have said, I think the CXL would be less stretchy in boot form, but I have to admit that feeling it slowed down my enthusiasm for it a bit. It looks and feels great in every other way though.

    Here's a heel/sole question: Most pictures where there is a full length sole (as opposed to 'commando' half sole), the rubber part of the sole that goes through the heel seems pretty wide, maybe a quarter inch or so. But I have seen an occasional picture where that black rubber part in the sole is much thinner, seems like an 8th inch or less. Can anyone say what that sole is with the thinner heel presence? I asked White's, but they misunderstood the question I think; and I have asked them so much that I didn't want to keep bugging them.

    Thanks.
     


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    Oh, and one more question. I think I like the turned-up, or 'sprung,' toe of the 461 last -- gives it that old 1940s shape, kinda like the Viberg Service Boot. But I rarely see mention or pictures of it here on a Semi-Dress. Can anyone testify to it for looks and feel, or better yet post a picture?
     


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    Be very careful with the not treating them when you get them thing. That's the fastest way to end up with needless problems. I have written extensively about this in the 1K threads.
     


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    What you are looking at is the difference between the different Vibram sole options.
    The one with the smaller height in the sole is the Vibram 269 sole. All the other Vibram options have a full thickness heel portion.
    The 269 profile is shaved slightly right under the arch, and therefore has a smaller height in the heel, but has the normal thickness under the area by the ball of the foot.
    Take a look at the pictures and compare for yourself.
    Hope that helps.
     


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    Yes, just what I needed to know -- thanks.

    Now, can anyone testify to how the Vibram 269 wears? Looks like it wouldn't give a ton of traction, but enough? And long-lasting enough?
     


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    Does anybody have any experience treating natural chromexcel with products such as Obenaufs, SnoSeal?
    Perhaps on other boot makers, or other leather products like wallets, belts?

    Just curious how much the color will darken, change.

    I treated my Brown Dress White's SD with an ample coat of Obenaufs, and SnoSeal, then put them in my oven on 115 degrees for 10-15 minutes as soon as I got them.
    Afterwards, I couldn't really notice the color change dramatically.
    However, that leather is not chromexcel, it was darker, and the perceived color change was probably going to be minimal anyway.
     


  12. fuzzyearlobes

    fuzzyearlobes Senior member

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    Obenauf's darkens the natural CXL significantly. Over a period of 4-5 days it gradually lightens back up. But also be aware that the natty CXL will darken over time on its own because of how light it is to begin with.
     
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    Damn well! Look at the heel wear, with almost no sole wear! Enough traction to climb a mountain I would say, but less than the lug soles -)


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    i have these for sale (size 10D) in B&S so i can get a pair that fit me better...

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    can we quickly talk leather care?

    I know the basic idea of keeping the leather free of dirt/debris/mud, but I'm more curious about whether the boots (specifically dress leather) need any product straight out of the box, or simply an application of product a few months down the line?
     


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