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@Legal Eagles:
It IS different than the Alden Last. When I was getting into White's Boots I spoke with Kyle about it. Here is is response to me:
The Barrie last that White’s has is the same last shape as Alden, but it’s scaled to White’s sizes. White’s run about a half size larger then Alden.

you won’t get as much arch support in the Barrie last as the 55, but since it’s all leather construction, you will get more arch in a White’s Barrie last compared to an Alden.
So since the Barrie last is 1/2 down from Brannock, and White's says their version is a 1/2 size bigger, that means the MP should be TTS. I feel vindicated now.
 

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I'm thinking of getting a pair of BH's and trying to decide between brown cxl, brown elk tan, and brown HH. Does white's still have great cxl clicking?
 

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I'm thinking of getting a pair of BH's and trying to decide between brown cxl, brown elk tan, and brown HH. Does white's still have great cxl clicking?
Remember, CXL is always a gamble. That said, White's has had some of the better examples over the last year. Obviously, QC has been a topic here as of late so YMMV. Remember, CXL is always a gamble.
 

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I'm thinking of getting a pair of BH's and trying to decide between brown cxl, brown elk tan, and brown HH. Does white's still have great cxl clicking?
I haven’t seen it in person, but the brown elk tan looks really good in pictures. It’s like a thicker version of their brown dress. I just got my first pair of Whites in brown dress and it’s much more brown in person than in pictures. I love it.
 

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I'm thinking of getting a pair of BH's and trying to decide between brown cxl, brown elk tan, and brown HH. Does white's still have great cxl clicking?
Clicking aside, this is what is considered acceptable by Horween... sometimes the break cannot be detected before wear, so the best clicking in the world is no guarantee.

If you would be OK with your boots looking like the pictures here (pay special attention to the first, second, and last picture), I say go for it, but @Rymanocerous is right... there are no guarantees... you pay your money and you take your chances.


If you really want CXL, are you sure we cannot interest you in a nice pair of loafers?
 

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So since the Barrie last is 1/2 down from Brannock, and White's says their version is a 1/2 size bigger, that means the MP should be TTS. I feel vindicated now.
Depends on one's foot -- my MPs are 1.5 sizes down from brannock and a half size smaller than my 55-last boots. Go figure. I was skeptical when baker's suggested that size for the MPs, but they fit fine. I could probably have gone with the same size as my SDs and BHs, but erring on the side of smaller was probably the best call for my narrow-ish feet.
 

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Depends on one's foot -- my MPs are 1.5 sizes down from brannock and a half size smaller than my 55-last boots. Go figure. I was skeptical when baker's suggested that size for the MPs, but they fit fine. I could probably have gone with the same size as my SDs and BHs, but erring on the side of smaller was probably the best call for my narrow-ish feet.
I agree. I wear an 11.5D in a Barrie Last and an 11.5E in a 55 Last.
 

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Must... resist... urge... to comment... on overall suitability... of CXL... in PNW boots...
I'll bite, is it just because of the gamble and that the break can be unattractive? Most of the cxl boots I've had have been rough out so I didn't run into that issue but I did have a pair of Alden boots where the break did not look good over time. I like the idea of elk tan but I think it's a bit darker than I'd prefer.
 

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[] seemingly impossible combination of buttery soft and supportive.

[] a patina that makes me reflect on the passage of time and the interconnectedness of all things.

[] gentle luster/glow instead of garish, urethane-like shine.
You lost me when you said you did not want a mirror shine... I don't have time for that kind of negativity in my life... ;)
 
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