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1) I love cxl. Whites cxl is amazing. The clicking is just superb. I think some folks just find cxl a questionable choice for boots. It's not at all abrasion/scuff resistant.I enjoyed your reply : ), so please tell me
1)Issues with CXL folks report?
2) British tan CXL?
yes CXL gets "scuffed" very easily, my understanding is the CXL used by White's is far superior to what Allen Edmonds has on their boots.1) I love cxl. Whites cxl is amazing. The clicking is just superb. I think some folks just find cxl a questionable choice for boots. It's not at all abrasion/scuff resistant.
Thank you, when was this free upgrade to HH? : )I have zero experience, I've just followed this thread for 4-5 months and always hear the term "CXL lottery" thrown around. So some people tend to believe that there is a random probability of getting both good CXL leather implying that there is a potential for leather issues as well as a random probability of White's getting something wrong. So if you get a win/win, you've won the White's/CXL lottery. If it was a real, actual issue, I'd imagine they wouldn't be in business still so I didn't pay much attention to it. Plus I ordered through Bakers and they're supposed to do the QC and other things and Kyle was great to work with.
I was originally going to do Natural CXL or Distressed smooth but I took advantage of the HH promotion and got the free upgrade which make that decision easy!
My next pair (I already know there will be one) will either be Natural CXL or Distressed Smooth depending on my mood when I order.
Also, 'British Tan' conjures up images of some retired British ex-pat falling asleep on a sunlounger in the Costa Del Sol after one too many margaritas. If 'British Tan' was an accurate colour description, it would be lobster pink and come with a free bottle of aftersun.British tan cxl is not British nor tan
All good points...you might also search for "clicking".British tan cxl is not British nor tan
I think LE adds in 'not cxl' too though I can't remember why
I'm the #1 CXL hater here but as LE points out it really has been thoroughly covered. I suggest you use the search function for posts that contain CXL and perhaps words like "abrasion" and "lottery" and you'll get the negative opinions.
I have had the exact same experience with the exact same boot... the search for something better is what turned me on to White's... and other PNW manufacturers.Wolverine 1000 mile, color 8 chromexcel. These are dog shit. Absolute dog shit. the leather is so loose that they look like they are melting off my feet. This is the worst quality american made boots and leather that I have ever seen. Absolute garbage. Totally unsuitable for anyone who has any idea what a heritage work boot is supposed to look like.
Thank you, I also have Allen Edmonds Higgin Mills in CXL (three pairs), does the CXL on White's thicker than the one the AE uses?on Chromexcel:
I have three chromoexcel boots/shoes. I'm counting my British Tan Oxfords, though the leather is very obviously different.
Brit. Tan oxords, white's: People who know shoes often ask if they are Shell. They have NO wrinkles or creases, and have a nice roll at the bend point. They vary in tone from light caramel to well done caramel. This leather is really nice.
Allen Edmonds HIggins mIll in brown and cammo chromexcel: This leather is looser than the British tan white's, but there is no real loose gran and no real noticeable creasing. It scuffs way, way easier than the british tan, and won't take a shine as easily as the british tan. These are my current motorcycle boots while my white's semi dress are resoled, and they have a few spots where the leather has been damaged during regular motorcycle use that won't buff out.
Wolverine 1000 mile, color 8 chromexcel. These are dog shit. Absolute dog shit. the leather is so loose that they look like they are melting off my feet. This is the worst quality american made boots and leather that I have ever seen. Absolute garbage. Totally unsuitable for anyone who has any idea what a heritage work boot is supposed to look like.