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Turns31

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Those look awesome. Did you change sizes or was there indeed a lasting mistake?

Sexiness is in the eye of the beholder and all...but I've come to prefer the MPs (I have plain toe 2030s in nat cxl and MPs). MPs have such a striking 3/4 profile*.

* I used to be normal. Now I jabber about boots' 3/4 profiles. What happened to me?
Yep the left boot was too large and the toe cap was sewn too far back I think? I didn't even realize the toe cap thing but the guy at White's pointed it out to me. When he told me they'd make me a new pair I asked if I could pay a little extra to change a few things and he had no problem with it.

Unstructured toe 2030s are just the pinnacle of sex in boot form to me. These MPs are still plenty slim and sleek but they're also .4 ounces heavier than the Vibergs. Going on a camping trip in the Rockies in a month and plan on taking the MPs. These are going to be my "shit kickers" I wear when I go somewhere muddy, snowy, pouring rain, etc...
 

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Yes Brown Smooth and Brown Oiltan are the same. Check out the below quotes for some pictures I've posted previously. I'm sorry my phone is making it difficult for me to post these properly
@discomute , Thanks for the lengthy post on your experience with your boots. I'm sure it's challenging ordering custom boots and having them shipped to Australia.

The Brown smooth looks great on your pair. Especially the cap toe really looks dressed up. I will consider that leather when I spec mine out.
 

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Do the SD’s come with kilties or must you request them? Also, what laces do they come with now?
 

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Do the SD’s come with kilties or must you request them? Also, what laces do they come with now?
Neither of mine did. Medium width waxed cotton laces. I swapped mine out for different laces as I'm not a fan of the provided set.
 

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Confirmed -- no kilties with SD and a single pair of waxed cotton flat laces. Kilties and two pairs of laces (flat waxed and leather) with BH.

I wish White's would offer the option of decent round laces with their boots -- not a fan of leather (esp. with speed hooks) and the flat waxed laces are pretty thin for boot laces. White's sister company, Danner, makes nice round boot laces, and I also use Obenauf's waxed round laces on my WF MPs (wax on, wax off).
 

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Confirmed -- no kilties with SD and a single pair of waxed cotton flat laces. Kilties and two pairs of laces (flat waxed and leather) with BH.

I wish White's would offer the option of decent round laces with their boots -- not a fan of leather (esp. with speed hooks) and the flat waxed laces are pretty thin for boot laces. White's sister company, Danner, makes nice round boot laces, and I also use Obenauf's waxed round laces on my WF MPs (wax on, wax off).
Obenaufs laces are my favorite for work boots.
 

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Neither of mine did. Medium width waxed cotton laces. I swapped mine out for different laces as I'm not a fan of the provided set.
Confirmed -- no kilties with SD and a single pair of waxed cotton flat laces. Kilties and two pairs of laces (flat waxed and leather) with BH.

I wish White's would offer the option of decent round laces with their boots -- not a fan of leather (esp. with speed hooks) and the flat waxed laces are pretty thin for boot laces. White's sister company, Danner, makes nice round boot laces, and I also use Obenauf's waxed round laces on my WF MPs (wax on, wax off).
Are they waxed laces different than the ones that used to come with the SD’s? The try on pair Bakers had sent to me had the old ones in them. They were absolutely horrid. I’ve seen tougher laces come in sneakers.

Obenaufs laces are my favorite for work boots.
I use these for my work boots as well and love
 

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Are they waxed laces different than the ones that used to come with the SD’s? The try on pair Bakers had sent to me had the old ones in them. They were absolutely horrid. I’ve seen tougher laces come in sneakers.

I use these for my work boots as well and love
Not familiar with the older SD laces, but the current ones are pretty puny for boot laces. I just measured the un-used pair that came with my most recent BHs and they're 5mm wide and about 1mm thick. They look passable when new but within a few ties they start to look a bit thin, twisted and ratty. They do seem to be stronger than they look, however, and being cotton (I think) they don't stretch like a lot of synthetic laces.

Obenaufs laces are great once all the excess wax is wiped away. The amount they put on is a little overkill IMO.
 

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Convince me not to buy SDs in Black HH with a Medallion toe cap, please. thank you.
 

discomute

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Convince me not to buy SDs in Black HH with a Medallion toe cap, please. thank you.
I think premium leathers are a waste in black (except calfskin). You don't see the depth of character that you do in any of the colours.
 

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I think premium leathers are a waste in black (except calfskin). You don't see the depth of character that you do in any of the colours.
I bought a pair of Brown HH a few months back and wanted to compare them to my Brown Elk Tan Smooth.
With a really nice photo comparison from @Legal Eagles- he had a pair of Black Elk Tan right next to a pair of Black HH.
The micro-creasing was very similar. I LOVE my Brown Elk Tan, but wanted to have a side by side physical comparison.
In the End, HH is REALLY nice, but I ordered a pair of Black Elk Tan BH with a Medallion Toe and am Sure I will not have a second thought about my choice, as well as, saving the $145.
 

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More convincing: if you wanted HH SDs, you should've bought them when the HH upcharge was free during the recent anniversary sale.
 

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^I did, in burgundy. Kyle was nice enough to give me the discount after the sale was over.
 

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