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Custom White's Boots ... Thoughts?

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Whacky, Jan 15, 2011.

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  1. b-ewing

    b-ewing Senior member

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    That's a really good point (and one i never even considered) on choosing the right leather if you're going to go with a soft toe. Would probably think twice about anything that requires a boot lining, because it'd be thinner stuff
     
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    You should find quite a bit on the celastic toe - it comes up from time to time. I personally dont like the look without it - iy looks like the front has collapsed, and after all the boot is meant to be sturdy and protect feet - but thats just a personal opinion....
     
  3. meso

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    I don't really get the fascination with a soft toe. Feel the same way about viberg service boots with a soft toe. Messes with the aesthetic.
     
  4. b-ewing

    b-ewing Senior member

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    I'd say it all depends on the last.

    Nothing in my mind looks better than a pair of soft toe engineer boots like MF Road Champs or my wesco MP toes; same thing for some WWII boondockers. I have had hesitation with doing it on Whites SDs because I don't think the toe profile is low or pointy enough. Anything with a slightly "bump toe" needs celastic imo.

    Other thoughts?
     
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    The service boot is worse it is kind of pointy just like most of the lasts on carmina.
     
  6. Okal

    Okal Well-Known Member

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    Here are a couple of pictures from the Katahdin boot thread here on Styleforum showing some boots where the toe had been pushed down and partially collapsed with only finger pressure to obtain a lower profile. I like this look better than a completely soft toe. I'm not sure exactly what is used in the toe of the Katahdin boots -- celastic? They are pretty good boots but certainly not the quality of the White's. I'm only showing them here for the partially collapsed toes with caps. I'm pretty sure this can be done with the single celastic toe White's too. The White's boots that have single layer soft toes are just too soft for my taste. I haven't seen a pair with toe caps and no celastic. That might work with a stiffer leather that tends to hold its shape.

    Allan

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  7. aaronjared

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    Great info Okal! That is exactly the type of thing I was looking for! Thank you so much.

    Is the British Tan a thick or thinner leather? If it's on the thinner side then I'll probably go with the celastic toe. I also have a pair of well worn Indy Boots which I'm about to send to get resoled, and I don't need a second pair of low profile boots in a similar vein of dressiness. I'm shooting for some hybrid combination of a pair of incredibly uncomfortable but beautiful boots, the Red Wing GT's and IR's (both of which I've sold due to the fact that I'm pretty sure they gave me the start of some plantar fasciitis; it's beyond comprehension that they haven't redesigned the fit of these boots to give fewer people problems).

    To answer another question, my work boots are just described as "Brown". I ordered from the White's catalog and it was one of 4 options: black, brown, red dog, and distressed. It does look like brown CXL though, but the leather is quite thick and also unlined. It is an incredibly durable leather and highly stain resistant. They got lightly sprayed with some hydraulic fluid from a backhoe and the next day the spots were gone. I'm not a laborer though. I work in the railroad industry doing inspections and spend a lot of time walking the tracks, so the soft toe works for me.
     
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    For the Vintage boot the Brown is CXL, it's 3-5oz according to White's. Good leather...
     
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  9. Okal

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    The White's Classic Work Boots come in black, brown, Red Dog and distressed OIL TANNED LEATHER and in black and brown CHROME EXCEL LEATHER. Check this link: http://www.whitesboots.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=30674 . It sounds like what you got, Aaron, is the brown oil tanned leather, which is the toughest leather White's uses, and the high oil content in that leather is probably why the hydraulic fluid spots disappeared quickly. The standard oil tanned leathers are thicker and much more durable than the CXL, which is also a nice leather for less rigorous conditions.

    Allan
     
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    Hears the configuration I’m pondering:
    Baker's Custom Bounty Hunter by White's Boots
    Counter Leather Brown Smooth, Celastic Toe Box No Thanks, Height 10", Midsole Single, Heel Base Standard, Last Semi Dress (Bounty Hunter), Steel Toe No Thanks, Upper (Shaft) Leather Brown Smooth, Toe Cap No Thanks, Toe Vamp Leather Brown Smooth, Top Cut Top (standard), Hardware Brass Eyes & Hooks, Leather Liner Brown, Pull Loops Leather Pull Loops, Size - Width D (medium), Lace Design Lace to Toe, Sole Vibram Composition Half Sole, Toe Cap Leather Color Brown Smooth, Edge Natural, Heel Lifts Standard, Size - Length 10.5

    Grand Total: $429.95

    Thoughts?


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  12. tavoz

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    Hi, I'm still on the sizing issue. Can you guys give me a clue on what would be the closest fit to semi-dress, between Wolverine 1000 and Red Wing iron ranger? I can try those two here in Paris, but no White's, so it would help me to figure out if the size that Kyle gave to me is something I can go on when ordering.
     
  13. aaronjared

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    Typically people find they do well with the same size in the many boot types. I am 8D in Alden Indy and 8E Red Wing Iron Ranger and Gentleman Traveler, and White's sized me 8C from my tracings, and they were spot on. If you sent in your tracings to Baker's then go with what he gave to you.
     
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    Responding to British Tan or Classic Brown. Just so happens that I have a pair of each - had them for about a year now. The Classic Brown is a deep rich brown - the British Tan is a more orangey color. Even though I really love the Classic Browns the British Tans have grown on me since I first got them. The color has deepened with age and has taken on a bit of patina. Here are some shots of the two side by side. (Sorry for the bad photo work)




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  15. meso

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    10 D Alden Barrie
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    10 D Redwing GT
     
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    Hi Tavoz, from experience trying to size people by proxy, I've found the tracing, although a lot of people do get sized well that way, can often be misleading due to sock thickness, pencil angle etc.... There's no substitute for trying them on of course but from quite a bit of experience and my own collection I would always go by: go the same size I. White's they you do in Red Wings or maybe size down a half size at most if going for a wider fit than a D, stay with your Viberg size, and From personal experience, go with a half size up from Alden's Barrie last if its narrow in the toe in a D and go with the same as your Tru balance size.

    Whites feel more snug around the instep and heel than most of the brands above and may feel like they are too small when you first get them but if the length feels right and the width doesn't hurt or pinch the. They will give and mold to become about the most comfortable above any of the above me filmed brands.......unless you have 6 toes and bunions..... And then you buggered.
     
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    Excuse the mistakes above, typing to fast for the phone but the message is still there!
     
  18. b-ewing

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    Thx for these!
     
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    I have the same size (11D) in 1000 mile and SD, BH. It really depends on what socks you intend to wear as if I were to wear thin socks I would go down to 10.5 on all as I'm a 11.5 D on a Brannock but if you will wear regular to mid weight socks, I would say size down .5 size. At the end of the day I'd rather have a shoe/boot slightly to large instead of slightly to small.
     
  20. Okal

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    In most shoes I wear a 13C or 13D. In the White's Semi-Dress I wear 12.5 with a C ball and a B heel. In my Russell Moccasins PH boots, they are marked 12C, but I know the heel has been narrowed to a B in those boots too. There are a few other moccasin-style boots where I can wear a 12, but mostly I am a true 13. In European sizing I typically wear a 46 or a 47, depending on the shoe/boot. For some reason, shoes/boots like Merrill, Ecco, and many others fit fine in the heel, but the standard White's, Luccheses, Russells and others are far too wide in the heel unless I have them built on a custom last. It all comes down to the lasts that are being used and the style of the boot. It can be hard to fit a boot without trying it on.

    Allan
     

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