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Custom shirts in NYC?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Monster, Apr 29, 2006.

  1. Monster

    Monster Active Member

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    I want to go the Jantzen or MyTailor way for shirts, but don't want to mess around with having to make repeated corrections...especially not at 4+ weeks from order to delivery.

    I'd like to buy one shirt (or as it seems many places have a 3 shirt minimum...3), then send that off to get copied.

    What are some good custom shirt makers to look to?
     
  2. Alexander Kabbaz

    Alexander Kabbaz Senior member

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    Well ... seeing as how you've just informed every New York shirtmaker that you're basically a f...wad, good luck.
     
  3. Steve B.

    Steve B. Senior member

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    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Sure you don't want to get them from Germany???
     
  4. Tomasso

    Tomasso Senior member

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    Sure you don't want to get them from Germany???


    Mr. Gasoline.
     
  5. Full Canvas

    Full Canvas Senior member

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    Even your imagined "Monster", Sir, must take a back seat to the creation of Dr. Cunningham! Please, spare us from the vision of your shirt.

    Respectfully, et blithering cetera

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  6. coachvu

    coachvu Senior member

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    On certain dates, mytailor.com has tailors taking measurements in New York. Check their website for the specifics. That should help reduce the number of trial shirts.
     
  7. Full Canvas

    Full Canvas Senior member

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    . . . MyTailor

    On certain dates, mytailor.com has tailors taking measurements in New York. Check their website for the specifics. That should help reduce the number of trial shirts.

    Can these bespoke upholsterers provide some nice seat covers for my 1950 Cadillac?

    Finally . . . after one month, we received some fresh coffee beans! Good morning from Minsk!

    Respectfully, et blithering cetera

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  8. odoreater

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    Well ... seeing as how you've just informed every New York shirtmaker that you're basically a f...wad, good luck.

    Hehe, yeah now they know that when a guy hands them a credit card that says "Monster" on it, that this is the guy who plans on ditching them for Jantzen.
     
  9. Shirtmaven

    Shirtmaven Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Fess up guys.

    I know a couple of guys have done that to me. One at least had the guts to tell me why he wanted his measurments after delivering a couple of well fitted shirts.

    Carl

    ww.cego.com
     
  10. Monster

    Monster Active Member

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    Well ... seeing as how you've just informed every New York shirtmaker that you're basically a f...wad, good luck.
    OMG! THEY WILL RECOGNIZE ME BY MY ANONYMOUS INTERNET ID WHEN I WALK IN THE STORE!!!!

    OMG YOU ARE RIGHT!! WHY AM I NOT AS SMRT AS YOU?!?!?!
     
  11. odoreater

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    Personally I wouldn't take the risk of mailing one of my terrific CEGO shirts to mytailor or Jantzen, though I have used both of them by taking my own measurements. [​IMG]
     
  12. odoreater

    odoreater Senior member

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    OMG! THEY WILL RECOGNIZE ME BY MY ANONYMOUS INTERNET ID WHEN I WALK IN THE STORE!!!!

    OMG YOU ARE RIGHT!! WHY AM I NOT AS SMRT AS YOU?!?!?!


    You're really not helping yourself to get helped on here.
     
  13. hanker565

    hanker565 Senior member

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    they'll probably recognize you from your childish attitude
     
  14. Margaret

    Margaret Senior member

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    In fairness, guys, I've heard a number of people on this board mention sending shirts to be copied, and don't remember anyone ever suggesting that this practice was unethical or even unseemly. Of course I understand that a custom shirtmaker needs to make a fair return on their initial investment of time and expertise, but I always thought that's why they established minimum order requirements; Monster seems perfectly amenable to abide by the shirtmaker's minimum.

    Custom shirtmaking isn't an option for me personally, so I've never really thought much about it, but I certainly never knew copying was unethical. If it is fine, but we might have informed this guy in more diplomatic manner than calling him vulgar names.
     
  15. Alexander Kabbaz

    Alexander Kabbaz Senior member

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    In fairness, guys, I've heard a number of people on this board mention sending shirts to be copied, and don't remember anyone ever suggesting that this practice was unethical or even unseemly. Of course I understand that a custom shirtmaker needs to make a fair return on their initial investment of time and expertise, but I always thought that's why they established minimum order requirements; Monster seems perfectly amenable to abide by the shirtmaker's minimum.

    Custom shirtmaking isn't an option for me personally, so I've never really thought much about it, but I certainly never knew copying was unethical. If it is fine, but we might have informed this guy in more diplomatic manner than calling him vulgar names.

    Relationships with bespoke makers have been discussed on this board for years ad nauseum. As lazy as Mr. Monster appears in his willingness to endure the trials and tribulations of Ricky or whomever working to perfect his pattern is the same lack of effort he used to research the subject ... on the only forum which actually does have a working search function.

    That said, let's repeat it all again: Relationships with bespoke makers are not ones where the maker profits handsomely from the outset. Most makers may do a bit better than break-even on your first order; some are happy just to come close. Minimums are set not to insure retirement at an early age, but merely to insure that the inevitable bath isn't too, too hot. Hopefully, the maker's work turns out to be of a caliber which causes the client to return and place another order from the effort-intensive pattern created for the first order. Now the maker can hope to make a reasonable profit. Just like an honest marriage, these are not relationships entered into with the divorce pre-planned by one of the parties as soon as a certain chattel is possessed; in this case the shirt pattern.

    Perhaps my vulgarity was misplaced. Perhaps Mr. Monster is not actually a f***wad, though given his second post he may well be. I would have better phrased it that his goal is to f*** the shirtmaker out of his hard-earned recompense. On the other hand, if there were a shirtmaker named Wad, I would have been entirely correct in the first place.
     
  16. AESOP

    AESOP New Member

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    I guess the destitute bespoke [​IMG] makers can always supplement their income by selling undies and socks.
     
  17. odoreater

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    I guess the destitute bespoke [​IMG] makers can always supplement their income by selling undies and socks.

    I think if you're going to diss someone on this board you should at least have the balls to do it with your regular screen name.
     
  18. chorse123

    chorse123 Senior member

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    I would have better phrased it that his goal is to f*** the shirtmaker out of his hard-earned recompense.

    If the customer is clear up front that he is planning to order one shirt, or whatever the minimum number of shirts is, and he is not intentionally misleading the maker, I don't think this is all that bad. Perhaps he can only afford 1, or 3, or 6 bespoke shirts, but needs more than that. I don't think it's his responsibility to worry about the maker's profitability. He's not "f*** [ing] the maker out of his recompense." He's meeting the terms of the deal. And if the maker is losing money on an order, perhaps he should be charging more.

    [​IMG] Wait, did I just say that? [​IMG]
     
  19. AESOP

    AESOP New Member

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    I think if you're going to diss someone on this board you should at least have the balls to do it with your regular screen name.

    you are wrong...this is the very first post on this board. And my point was valid...even if it had a slight edge to it.
     
  20. odoreater

    odoreater Senior member

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    you are wrong...this is the very first post on this board. And my point was valid...even if it had a slight edge to it.

    I see. I guess I stand corrected then.
     

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