Cuff with club-collar?

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  1. Looking to improve

    Looking to improve Senior member

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    Somewhere in the back of my head there is the idea of ordering an m-t-m shirt with a club-collar. I think it would be a nice addition for summer to my stack of shirts. I can't really describe what attracts me to the club-collar, but the fact that one rarely sees it and that I find it distinctive admittedly plays a role.

    The fact that one rarely sees a club-collared shirt also presents the reason for my question. With most other collars I see examples around me from which I can deduce what sort of cuff is 'proper' or combines 'best' with that collar. Not so with club-collars.

    Intuitively I'm thinking along the lines of a barrel cuff rather than a french cuff, since a club-collar strikes me as somewhat less dressy. But... what sort of barrel cuff? one button, two button, rounded edges? And am I wrong about the no french cuffs idea?

    What say you?

    MtB.
     


  2. Manton

    Manton RINO Dubiously Honored

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    For a summer shirt, I would go with a barrel cuff with rounded edges. The number of buttons is purely a matter of preference. French cuffs are fine with club collars, but seem to look better with a pinned or contrast (or both) version. For a shirt with a self-collar, the button cuff strikes me as more appropriate.
     


  3. AlanC

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    Contrasting collars just look 'right' with club collars. [​IMG]
     


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    Manton RINO Dubiously Honored

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    Traditionally, contrast collar shirts always took French cuffs, either self or the same cloth as the collar. I think the rule makes sense. The contrast collar is too dressy for a button cuff.
     


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    Manton and AlanC,

    Thank you for your kind help.

    MtB
     


  6. Alexander Kabbaz

    Alexander Kabbaz Senior member

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    The collar shown in this photo: [​IMG] is, IMHO, way out at the far reaches of what could be termed a club collar. It is too short and too round ... about halfway toward being a Peter Pan collar. The radius of a club collar point should be somewhat less and the length, especially if one wants to use a pin, needs to be longer. IMHO.
     


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    Alex, Not that I intend to use a pin... but would this be a better example of a club-collar? [​IMG] And what, pray tell, is a 'Peter Pan collar'? MtB
     


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    Yes, Much ... although mine are even slightly less rounded.

    A Peter Pan collar, more common on women's shirts, is rounded almost from where it leaves the band with a large radius curve and has shorter points like the contrast example above.

    Edit: Didn't notice your second question.
     


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    Yikes--I'd hate to wear something called a Peter Pan collar. Perhaps the Michael Jackson legal team could look into it, though... [​IMG]
     


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    Dear Alex:

    given what you write above, would you consider an "Eton" collar & a "Club" collar (aka Brooks' old "Golf" collar) to all three be the same, or is one more akin to the Pete. Pan collar?
     


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    Thank you Alex.

    MtB
     


  12. Alexander Kabbaz

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    Old bespoke shirtmaker, only vaguely aware that there are companies which make shirts "ready-to-wear" ... [how do they do that without measurements, eh?] ... says, "Eton? Golf? Brooks? show me, please, so I can answer you'."
     


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