SvelteDave
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To begin, as this is my first post:
Hello to all fellow StyleForum members! As a long time reader it’s great to be part of the community.
Now to get started, first a bit of background (which you can skip haha):
I have been wearing/buying Crockett & Jones shoes for most of my life, with the first pair purchased when I was 13, and I still have some pairs that were made for me when I was a teen. However I would always purchase direct in the Jermyn St store, either off the rack or made to measure but also picked up there. However since have moved abroad a couple years ago I don’t make my way there as often as I would do which prompted me to make a mail order.
As the winter here got quite serious, -20C and about a meter of snow, and not having any boots suited for the task, I decided to order a pair of the Snowdon boots, and a couple other pairs but these arrived in fine condition.
And so to the problem I find myself in:
So the order arrived yesterday (not very speedily I might add as I paid for the order last Sunday night, so after 10 days, which is a bit off for a european delivery with UPS). Anyways I was very disheartened when I looked at the Snowdons:
I have made a few more photos of the toecaps with white paper covering the welt so as to make the dents more visible when viewed from the top: I think it is quite clear that the line of the toecaps isn’t smooth and round but jagged/dented. When making the pictures I have also noticed that between the very bottom of the toecap and the welt there is ‘excess’ leather, that is to say it can be clearly seen where the toecap ends but the welt does not start there, this can be seen in the pictures, and again this is something I have never seen before.
I want to ask all shoe aficionados here, especially those of you who have a pair of Snowdons:
with the description above, and the pictures attached here, is this a well made pair of boots up to standard or unacceptable quality for a full priced shoe? And what would you do in my place, take the 40 odd quid or excahnge? And if exchange do you feel I should cover the cost of the exchange?
Thank you in advance for your time in reading this and your help.
All the best,
David
And here are the photographs.
The dents:
The 'extra' leather between the end of the toecap and the welt:
The creasing/wrinkling:
The inadequately waxed welts:
Hello to all fellow StyleForum members! As a long time reader it’s great to be part of the community.
Now to get started, first a bit of background (which you can skip haha):
I have been wearing/buying Crockett & Jones shoes for most of my life, with the first pair purchased when I was 13, and I still have some pairs that were made for me when I was a teen. However I would always purchase direct in the Jermyn St store, either off the rack or made to measure but also picked up there. However since have moved abroad a couple years ago I don’t make my way there as often as I would do which prompted me to make a mail order.
As the winter here got quite serious, -20C and about a meter of snow, and not having any boots suited for the task, I decided to order a pair of the Snowdon boots, and a couple other pairs but these arrived in fine condition.
And so to the problem I find myself in:
So the order arrived yesterday (not very speedily I might add as I paid for the order last Sunday night, so after 10 days, which is a bit off for a european delivery with UPS). Anyways I was very disheartened when I looked at the Snowdons:
- The leather looked more soft/fragile, almost unwaxed (especially compared to my fathers pair of Snowdons)
- There was wrinkling on the outside of the vamp.
- Some of the welting seemed to me coming apart in the right shoe, it is very soft near the top, almost like wet cardboard, and I can push it up/into it without any force at all
- And worst of all both boots had dents on their toe caps.
- The leather is indeed different as they changed last year - alright seems plausible
- The wrinkling/creasing “is cosmetic and is due to the leather being slightly softer and does sometimes occur when the uppers are pulled back from the linings before being hand lasted” - an odd explanation to say the least, regardless of how soft the leather is I would expect it to be precisely pulled, especially in a 500 odd pound pair of boots.
- She admitted the welts look like they have not been waxed properly - again not what I would expect from a 500 pound shoe
- As to the dents she said it is hard to judge from the photos.
I have made a few more photos of the toecaps with white paper covering the welt so as to make the dents more visible when viewed from the top: I think it is quite clear that the line of the toecaps isn’t smooth and round but jagged/dented. When making the pictures I have also noticed that between the very bottom of the toecap and the welt there is ‘excess’ leather, that is to say it can be clearly seen where the toecap ends but the welt does not start there, this can be seen in the pictures, and again this is something I have never seen before.
I want to ask all shoe aficionados here, especially those of you who have a pair of Snowdons:
with the description above, and the pictures attached here, is this a well made pair of boots up to standard or unacceptable quality for a full priced shoe? And what would you do in my place, take the 40 odd quid or excahnge? And if exchange do you feel I should cover the cost of the exchange?
Thank you in advance for your time in reading this and your help.
All the best,
David
And here are the photographs.
The dents:
The 'extra' leather between the end of the toecap and the welt:
The creasing/wrinkling:
The inadequately waxed welts:
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