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Crockett & Jones MTO Central

Discussion in 'Preorders, Group Made-to-order, trunk shows, and o' started by hoit1981, Sep 16, 2013.

  1. Watchman1

    Watchman1 Senior member

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    Gentlemen,

    Thanks for your compliments.

    @kczsilence Lauren informed me that the Pembroke label is due to "Trademark" agreements with RL. So, hence the Pembroke.

    @tocohillsguy Its my understanding that the CJ for RL line are a admixture of hand grade and bench grade. I cannot make too many discerning judgements yet regarding the comparative quality.
     
  2. Wesley Crusher

    Wesley Crusher Senior member

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    Stunning.

    I quite like the light welt stitching. I am in agreement with an earlier comment that it gives the shoe a real 40s/50s retro vibe.
     
  3. BackInTheJox

    BackInTheJox Senior member

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    Loving the photos, and can't wait to see more. I do have to say, though, that I hope very much that the Warlow 2.0 doesn't have the white stitching. I really don't care for it. I suppose I could darken it myself if we did end up with it, but I'd worry I'd do a messy job.
     
  4. Gabru

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    These came out really good, congrats. And I like the white welt stitching..
     
  5. tdes81

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    Ugh Ugh Ugh. So much remorse for not getting in on that.
     
  6. tkebh979

    tkebh979 Senior member

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    Twice.

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  7. gsgleason

    gsgleason Senior member

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    I ordered a 11E UK Warlow based on my 11.5D Marlow.

    I received it yesterday, and it's significantly wider than the Marlow, but the length is the same.

    I found several mention here and elsewhere suggesting that the Marlow was built on a narrow 325 last, and I would have to agree after comparing the two side by side (and with the feel).

    I'll post photos when I can.
     
  8. tocohillsguy

    tocohillsguy Well-Known Member

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    I'm no expert, but I suspect the difference is attributable to who built the shoe and not the last. When I tried on my 10E Warlows they felt like by 10.5D Marlows, but I'll give them a closer inspection tonight.
     
  9. gsgleason

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    It's much more than the small differences among handmade shoes. I think a picture will be more clear, so I'll do that when I get home.
     
  10. BackInTheJox

    BackInTheJox Senior member

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    Interesting. I'd definitely like to see the pics.

    I usually take an E width (US), but the 8.5 (US) Marlow fit me ok....maybe a hair long and a hair narrow. The 8 (US) was definitely too snug, but I don't recall of it was more the length or the width. I had hypothesized that a wider "US 8" from RL would fit best if it existed.
    I don't own any Marlows, have only tried on. But my CJ/BB longwings are "US 8.5" and fit me like I recall the Marlows in the same size fitting.

    But if the UK version is truly wider, perhaps I should've sized down another half size to 7.5UK. I did send Lauren a tracing of my foot and she still said 8E UK was the best/closest fit so we will see!

    I actually have stock Pembrokes in 8E shipping from the UK tomorrow, so I will find out very shortly.....but if it turns out the size is too big, it will likely be too late to alter my Warlow MTO order.
     
  11. chipshot

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    I've purchased from the NY store on 341 plain toe shell and 314 loafers.. They were a full size down US TTS. I phoned them about last 325 and they recommended a full size down on this last. Intersingly they added last 335 is pretty much the same as 325 but the toe box is higher, similar dimentions however..
     
  12. KPDarb

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    Regardless of the welt stitch, which i would not be disappointed with, they look amazing. I cannot wait until December for the next delivery. Congrats on a spectacular shoe!
     
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  13. tocohillsguy

    tocohillsguy Well-Known Member

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    Here's my 10.5D Marlow next to my 10E Warlow. Excuse the poor picture. The lighting was so bad I had to use the flash. Still I would say these are the same size. If anything the Warlow may be a tad longer, but that could be attributed solely to the sole. The wingtips differ slightly in their lengths. For me the fit is equivalent.

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  14. wklq76a

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    Thanks for posting this. The difference in wingtip length is pretty stark, IMO. I wonder if it's just variability in lasting, pattern update, or something else? The size difference?
     
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    Busted out the dundees today. Honestly not entirely sure if these are for me, but they are really good looking (not much color variation irl, it was the way the light was falling)
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  16. loxo

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    I just received the magic email that Navy Shell Camberleys are shipping..!
     
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    Saw something from C&J on my UPS App then got the Camberly email too.
    Still waiting on my Warlow/Dundees. :(
     
  18. chipshot

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    Hey man these look great! Look at what most wear.. zero comparison .. Awesome boot Sir!
     
  19. gsgleason

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    I wasn't able to really capture it with the camera that well.

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    I tried them on again and they're certainly more loose fitting than my Marlows, and that may be due to the lasting process being less snug, or something like that. It does appear that more of the welt is present on these as well, which exacerbates the issue.
     
  20. chipshot

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    ^ wow they sound great!! More images..
     

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