Crockett & Jones Lasts?

[bankermonkey]

Im looking at getting 2-3 pairs of C&J's and I was curious to know how the lasts are shaped. At the moment im thinking of picking up both the Connaught (236) and the Arden (341) but then theres the Radstock (341) and Bedford (317) which are both similar design to the Connaught. So I was curious to know how the C&J lasts run? is 236 more elongated and elegant than the 341? Hopefully someone can help me out, and sorry for the ramble

 

[bigbris1]

(236) Meh
(341) Full with a pointy/tapered toe
(317) Pointy toe

 

[rebel222]

Look at their website. Each shoe is photgraphed in its respective last. You can compare them.

 

[apropos]

Rounded toe, broad - 236 > 325
Almond toe, elongated - 341
Pointier toe, narrow, elongated - 360
Very pointy toe, narrow, elongated - 351

Chisel-toe, narrow - 348, 358
Chisel-toe, broad - 337

 

[bankermonkey]

hey thanks for the replys

@apropos

im only looking for a rounded toe, not a big fan of the chisel toe

I guess the 341 last is what i will be looking for

 

[apropos]

If your feet are large & you are self-conscious of that and wish to avoid the perception of large feet made larger by an elongated last, get a pattern that breaks up the vamp of the shoe - like a wingtip or a design with a medallion, as opposed to a plain toe (e.g. chukka or PTB).

 

[bankermonkey]

Originally Posted by apropos

If your feet are large & you are self-conscious of that and wish to avoid the perception of large feet made larger by an elongated last, get a pattern that breaks up the vamp of the shoe - like a wingtip or a design with a medallion, as opposed to a plain toe (e.g. chukka or PTB).

i wear a size 8.5/9US so im not worried about my feet looking huge

I just read that the Radstock comes with a Dainite sole? if im ordering from Pediwear is there anyway I can request a leather sole?

 

[apropos]

Originally Posted by bankermonkey

i wear a size 8.5/9US so im not worried about my feet looking huge I just read that the Radstock comes with a Dainite sole? if im ordering from Pediwear is there anyway I can request a leather sole?
Lucky you... If you do a special order, it will be full C&J price, not the Pediwear price. From memory it is 550 pounds or some other similarly ridiculous figure. No harm enquiring though... If you are hell bent on a leather sole. Try shoehealer - they could probably replace the sole for you on a stock Radstock before shipping to you, but it would be unusual to say the least: most of their resole on ordering requests are for the opposite (leather > dainite) as opposed to dainite > leather. Any particular reason for wanting the change? Dainite soles are awesome, don't drink the leather soles are always bestzzzzzzz koolaid. When it comes down to it they wear a lot faster, and are slippery when wet.

 

[bankermonkey]

Originally Posted by apropos

Lucky you...

If you do a special order, it will be full C&J price, not the Pediwear price. From memory it is 550 pounds or some other similarly ridiculous figure. No harm enquiring though...

If you are hell bent on a leather sole. Try shoehealer - they could probably replace the sole for you on a stock Radstock before shipping to you, but it would be unusual to say the least: most of their resole on ordering requests are for the opposite (leather > dainite) as opposed to dainite > leather.

Any particular reason for wanting the change? Dainite soles are awesome, don't drink the leather soles are always bestzzzzzzz koolaid. When it comes down to it they wear a lot faster, and are slippery when wet.

So if I order from Pediwear and request the Radstock with leather soles I will just end up paying the full C&J price? Or do I have to order directly from C&J?

I could try Shoehealer, but wouldnt they need the 341 last to do any major shoe repairs like that?

I have nothing against Dainite, i guess im alittle more conservative

 

[bankermonkey]

quick question;

Does the Arden also come with a Dainite sole?

 

[apropos]

Originally Posted by bankermonkey

So if I order from Pediwear and request the Radstock with leather soles I will just end up paying the full C&J price? Or do I have to order directly from C&J?

I could try Shoehealer, but wouldnt they need the 341 last to do any major shoe repairs like that?

I have nothing against Dainite, i guess im alittle more conservative
You can make a special order through shoehealer or direct to C&J and it will cost the exact same each time - a ridiculous sum. At least that was my experience when I asked if I could have a particular shoe with a different leather once.

I see your point regarding needing the last, but given the shoe is brand new, not stretched out of shape, and not softened by wear, I don't really see a major problem TBH. They remove the outsole, but the welt to which the outsole (and insole) are attached is left in place and should help keep the shape. Many members here get their shoes resoled at local cobblers with no (apparent) problem at all.

I admit this is an amateur understanding though and may not encompass the true complexity of the process. You'd best contact DFWII or bengalstripe for the final word on that.

 

[apropos]

Originally Posted by bankermonkey

quick question;

Does the Arden also come with a Dainite sole?
No - leather sole.

 

[bankermonkey]

Originally Posted by apropos

You can make a special order through shoehealer or direct to C&J and it will cost the exact same each time - a ridiculous sum. At least that was my experience when I asked if I could have a particular shoe with a different leather once.

I see your point regarding needing the last, but given the shoe is brand new, not stretched out of shape, and not softened by wear, I don't really see a major problem TBH. They remove the outsole, but the welt to which the outsole (and insole) are attached is left in place and should help keep the shape. Many members here get their shoes resoled at local cobblers with no (apparent) problem at all.

I admit this is an amateur understanding though and may not encompass the true complexity of the process. You'd best contact DFWII or bengalstripe for the final word on that.

550 pounds is almost Edward Green territory, I will think about it. thanks for all your help