Crockett & Jones for Ralph Lauren Cordovan (Marlow, Darlton, Gifford, Garran, Lindrick, McCallum, Rh

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  1. chipshot

    chipshot Senior member

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    LeJouvre thanks for the input, I do appreciate it. Going sans caps, the wear isn't that bad, I would only do it if they were recessed from the onset by a good cobbler. BTW you helped me in my Marlow Tassel sizing, very pleased I've gone down in that last another 1/2. It's a lengthy sole compared to the Penny; and I do not like a sloppy loafer whereby your pant legs are slipping into your shoes as your racing to catch that plane .... annoying ... cordovan will stretch out after many years is my experience, thanks man!
     
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    No worries mate! Glad I could help. By the way, where are the pics?
     
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    Penny [​IMG] Lindrick [​IMG]
     
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    It can be removed...
     
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    Sure, but most cobblers butcher the leather sole before gluing the Topy on.

    Remove the Topy and you have a few millimeters off the bottom of the sole plus penetration of glue into the leather.

    It is also impossible to tell whether or not the "cobbler" has disturbed the stitching because the Topy is glued over it.

    This is the perfect way to turn a premium $850 shoe into a $300 special. The "cobbler" who did this should be taken out into a back alley and shot!

    A real mess.

    Leather soles need a good dressing of "Ledersohlenöl" to prepare them for wear if you want a sole to remain healthy and resistant to excessive wear. See http://www.burgol.de/products/ledersohlenoel

    Every shoe I have bought and put that product on from before first use has had a major reduction in wear to the sole, an increase in the life of the sole and an improved ability to flex without disturbing the upper.

    Not only that, but when the first layer of sole is worn sufficiently it becomes possible to resole with a "Daenite" if you really want a rubber bottom sole.

    Daenite at least simulates natural leather reasonably well, Topy does not.

    Those Marlows are basically no better than second hand now, and $250 - $300.00 is about the value of a good second hand pair.
     
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    NAMOR Senior member

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    What about AS handgrade? I would put it somewhere between GM and Carmina
     
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    LeJouvre Senior member

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    Absolutely, and Carmina is a particularly good brand. The trouble with Carmina is they are still expanding their marketing structures and so most consumers are not aware of either the product or where to source them from.

    With Alfred Sargent it is not always easy to find a good continuous supply from USA based suppliers.

    I agree with you Namor, Alfred Sargent should have been included in that list, I screwed up, but there are many other brands as well which I have excluded, just for the sake of brevity.
     
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    I've been eyeballing some Trickers. Never owned a pair myself. Are they on par with Crocett & Jones? I am finding Alden products just are not made as well as some of these English Boot/Shoe company's and so I'll pass. My real need is Cordo Chucka double sole TTS US 9 1/2. And some decent Long Wings also Cordo. Enjoy the long weekend all.
     
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    My C&J for Polo have mellowed to a great patina



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    Your ankles haven't. Some tree trunks right there.
     
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    No.....just the angle of the picture, I actually have to get a narrowed shaft on my custom boots.
     
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    Treacle and honey - gorgeous - those are reaching their prime
     
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    Well put to describe a charming patina.
     
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    My first experience with shell:

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    and since some aldens also arrived on the same day i thought i would include them:

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