• STYLE. COMMUNITY. GREAT CLOTHING.

    Bored of counting likes on social networks? At Styleforum, you’ll find rousing discussions that go beyond strings of emojis.

    Click Here to join Styleforum's thousands of style enthusiasts today!

Crockett & Jones for Ralph Lauren Cordovan (Marlow, Darlton, Gifford, Garran, Lindrick, McCallum, Rh

clee1982

Stylish Dinosaur
Joined
Feb 22, 2009
Messages
24,187
Reaction score
12,739
I see, one thing I forgot is things are usually a bit trickery with shell, it's never quite same size has been my experience (but the difference is usually less than 0.5 size, so most of the time stick with same size works)
 

elsalvatrucha

Senior Member
Joined
Feb 22, 2014
Messages
474
Reaction score
398
hm not sure - its almost not as much the heel but the sides behind the tassels ..

View attachment 1490438

I never made these work which is shame since I love these shoes. I took a 10.5 and it was way too big and lots of heel slippage. Took the 10 and was a bit small in the toe box and hurt my pinky but kept it in the hope it would stretch. After 5 to 7 wears it did not and just sold them.
 

Maximus Rex

Senior Member
Joined
Nov 11, 2010
Messages
308
Reaction score
93
hm not sure - its almost not as much the heel but the sides behind the tassels ..

View attachment 1490438
I have the RL cordovan version made by CJ. It is not on the 325 last, and is narrower in the toe box and larger in the heel. I wouldn't buy those again. I have two other pairs of CJ cavendish on the 325 in cordovan and 4 others in calf (two suede and two calf) on the 325 and all fit perfectly. Unfortunately, the RL version doesn't fit as well in my opinion. I wear it, but it is loose in the heel and tight in the toe box.
 

lukas957

Member
Joined
Sep 9, 2020
Messages
13
Reaction score
4
When I order the shoe I initially asked for the Cavendish in cordovan but instead of the burgundy in brown and with a double leather soul (I told them "like the RL") and they told me that was a Cavendish.

The store manager also assured me that they were "the same" when I picked the new ones up.

Could it have to do with the double leather sole ?

When stores re-open I will try the stock Cavendish burgundy cordovan to compare.
 

clee1982

Stylish Dinosaur
Joined
Feb 22, 2009
Messages
24,187
Reaction score
12,739
What view do you want? Ask CJ they will tell you what it means
 

Journeyman

Distinguished Member
Joined
Mar 29, 2005
Messages
7,863
Reaction score
3,166
not sure if anyone has a view on the CJ codes inside the shoes:
I've no idea what the codes mean.

However, I had a look at the lining of my C&J for RL Polo shell cordovan tassel loafers. The writing on the lining says:
ALM46124 10D
1128664 / 41053
 

losrockets

Distinguished Member
Joined
May 15, 2013
Messages
1,966
Reaction score
1,228
Has anyone used Saphir dark brown cordovan cream on their RL shell? In addition to the usual dryness my pairs have a bit of discoloration due to heel and toe bumps which isn't the usual attractive patina look, and I was hoping to even out the tone. Will this Saphir product be a good match or should I stick to the neutral cordovan cream?
 

lukas957

Member
Joined
Sep 9, 2020
Messages
13
Reaction score
4
Regarding the discussion above - I have just been to to the C&J store and they actually think that the RL tassel is not made on the same last as the Cavendish which would explain the different fit..
 

alexSF

Distinguished Member
Joined
Dec 10, 2009
Messages
3,363
Reaction score
335
Last edited:

clee1982

Stylish Dinosaur
Joined
Feb 22, 2009
Messages
24,187
Reaction score
12,739
I know Bodiley carry 72 last but I have no idea what else is on 302 last
 

Churchill W

Distinguished Member
Joined
Nov 19, 2013
Messages
3,690
Reaction score
1,692
Has anyone used Saphir dark brown cordovan cream on their RL shell? In addition to the usual dryness my pairs have a bit of discoloration due to heel and toe bumps which isn't the usual attractive patina look, and I was hoping to even out the tone. Will this Saphir product be a good match or should I stick to the neutral cordovan cream?
I don't recall having any issue with the dark brown cordovan cream on my RL shell.
 

Styleforum is proudly sponsored by

Featured Sponsor

Favorite Shorts Length

  • Above the knee

  • Knee length

  • Below the knee

  • None of the above

  • Mid-thigh ("short shorts")


Results are only viewable after voting.

Related Threads

Forum statistics

Threads
461,832
Messages
10,020,297
Members
208,463
Latest member
hgazxdpol
Top