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Crockett & Jones for Ralph Lauren Cordovan (Marlow, Darlton, Gifford, Garran, Lindrick, McCallum, Rh

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by NAMOR, Oct 1, 2011.

  1. zippyh

    zippyh Senior member

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    I didn't think C&J did the thing where they put the actual UK size on the sole liner.
    My C&J Barney's pairs have the US size embossed there. I just checked some Barney's Tetbury size 10.5D. They say 10.5 over 4.
     
  2. Averroes1198

    Averroes1198 Senior member

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    Those are made for sure by C&J to benchgrade standards (on the 341 last I think).
     
  3. mosy

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    Thanks! How would you know that they are bench grade standards? Is it the non-channeled sole?
     
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    No closed channel soles, also the lining, the color of the sole, also no handgrade last (this isn't the 363 last).
     
  5. mosy

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    Thanks! At full price that's pretty expensive for bench grade. Do you think it's possible RL gets a hybrid, where the last, construction, and finish are bench grade but the leather itself is of handgrade standards?
     
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    It's the upcharge you're paying for having a RL shoe;)
    If I'm not mistaken it's possible at a MTO shoes to do that!
     
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    Wouldn't fully dismiss the possibilities RL version are mix of hand and bench grade, CJ for BB has closed channel sole but it's not handegrade in its fullest
     
  8. mosy

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    which BB models by C&J are like this?
     
  9. Averroes1198

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    Like I said, when doing a MTO, that's what RL basically is asking from C&J such things are possible!
     
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    And maybe handgrade quality uppers, it was just to show Mosy, that when doing a MTO (or for a brand as RL), there are some special combinations possible.
     
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    I have a feeling those are made by Alfred Sargent. But i do understand what you are saying that perhaps RL or BB can get a mix.
     
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  15. Averroes1198

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    Those are made by C&J, 100% sure.

    Those penny loafers are the same model as the RL Marlow (http://www.styleforum.net/t/527563/...mere-sport-coat-size-46it-36us-made-in-italy#), maybe made on a different last, but therefore do I need other pictures or see the shoes in real live.
     
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    What polish do peeps use for their Marlows?
     
  18. Patrick R

    Patrick R Senior member

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    None. I use Lexol leather conditioner when needed (rarely). But there is no need to polish cordovan.
     
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