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Crockett & Jones for Ralph Lauren Cordovan (Marlow, Darlton, Gifford, Garran, Lindrick, McCallum, Rh

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by NAMOR, Oct 1, 2011.

  1. jerrybrowne

    jerrybrowne Senior member

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    ???? What about your Galways?!
     
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  2. chipshot

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    Agreed, fantastic looking boot. This is how you felt about the Lindrick as I remember. These are more versatile as I see it.
     
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    Great looking boot. Would be more interested in comparison pics between the gianna and the Indy on the plaza last. That seems to be the more comparable Alden version.
     
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  5. NAMOR

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    They just happen to the most versatile. I would rank Gianni up top.

    Gianni
    Galway
    Lindrick
    BB Captoe
    Various Alden
     
  6. NAMOR

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    You need at least 50 pairs to be able to say this out loud with a straight face
     
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    Agreed! It's hard enough keeping a straight face while reading this thread.
     
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  9. sevenfoldtieguy

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    Not so fast my friend. :D

    Reasonable people can disagree ....

    I assume by versatility we are talking everything from denim to twills to flannels to a suit (or at least a blazer/sport coat).

    I have four pairs of Alden color 8 boots on the Plaza last (plaintoe, NST, Wing Tip, and captoe). I would rank each one of them at the top of that list.
     
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    This is a club for which I sometimes wonder if I should be ashamed to be a member.
     
  11. bucksfan

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    X post from the Non-Alden shell cordovan thread: Gianis today, with flannels.

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  12. Alcibiades

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    These Gianni photos are outstanding, guys. I've neglected RL/C&J for too long.
     
  13. NAMOR

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    shocking. my statement is based on personal experiences with all of the boots i listed so I dont make the statement lightly. I love Alden but C&J is just hands down a superior product, even if Alden does make a handful of more attractive and care-friendly shell shoes.

    To your point, Alden Plaza is damn attractive. in a C&J-free I world id be perfectly happy with Alden, thinking it was the greatest boot on earth. And all my opinions would reflect this.

    edit - Hell ive been after the plaza wingtip boot forever and even tried to organize a similar model through Carmina. Its still at the bottom of the list though
     
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  14. NAMOR

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    the gianni remind me in many ways of the EG nevis; not as sleek and without the nst however proportions are awfully similar and I can see myself wearing these boots more casually than the galway. if i was going a 2 week trip and could bring just one boot, it would be the gianni
     
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    And so is mine. :D

    No need for sarcasm.

    I own or have owned all the boots you listed, with the exception of the Gianni, which I ordered, considered, and returned. The boot's size was too large, but I would not have ordered a size smaller even if they had it. Still a bit too Indy-like for what I was looking for. While it is more streamlined than the Indy, it is still a relatively wide boot on a relatively wide last. But of course that is what some are after, and I have no problem with that.

    I like C&J shell and have plenty of it. My post went to the issue of versatility - not quality - and nowhere did I claim Alden made a superior product to C&J. However, speaking of quality, I have had to return 4 C&J shell models - shoes and boots - for QC issues. Alden, without doubt, has its own QC issues.

    But back to versatility. I stand by my original post. If you disagree, I have no problem with that.
     
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    Sorry Sevenfold .....This is the more versatile boot as I see it. No question. Sevenfold has narrow width feet, I think he forgot to mention this fact so I understand him not liking the Gianni, it would be a poor fit for him. I like the fit of this boot better than any of my other boots. BB Cap, Harleck. I off loaded the Lindricks to make room for this makeup, again more versatility was the thinking. At the end of the day, we should all be thankful for what we have. Most get by on much less in life.
     
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    On the "versatility" scale (i.e. looking perfectly in place with a wool suit, chinos, and denim), the Marlow wingtip boots and Alden captoe boots either in Plaza and Grant and in black or color 8, seem to take the cake. This Gianni looks beautiful but IMO the three shoes I listed work better with suits and equally as well with chinos and denim.

    EDIT - I meant "Marlow wingtip shoes"
     
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  19. chipshot

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    Ahh, I thankfully no longer wear suits, I see your point.
     
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    i totally understand where both 7ftg and Alci are coming from. fortunately none of us have to make the difficult decision of choosing just one
     
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