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Crockett & Jones for Ralph Lauren Cordovan (Marlow, Darlton, Gifford, Garran, Lindrick, McCallum, Rh

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by NAMOR, Oct 1, 2011.

  1. kmdsimpson

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  2. razl

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    One thing I noticed in the pair that I just got was not so much a color difference between the two but rather that the grain was not aligned identically between them. I've got a pair of Tricker's Stowe boots that have a similar (though mush less noticeable) effect.

    This is going to sound weird if you haven't seen it in person, but if I view the two boots where I see each boot's same side (left and left or right and right) one will be slightly darker than the other. However, if I view them from above, the sides appear the same color. It has to do with the lighting and the grain, not the actual color of the leather itself. I can tell because if I slowly rotate the boots the color appearance changes as the lighting on it changes. I vaguely recall an old thread with photos that captured this fairly well, but don't have a link to it.

    edit: I should also add that "grain" may not be the correct term here. Again, the old thread had a much better explanation - it may have been the grain or some other bit of hide esoterica that I don't recall.

    In any event, it's not very noticeable and the shell is so freakin' beautiful you'd have to pry it out of my grubby mitts.
     
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  3. makewayhomer

    makewayhomer Senior member

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    ^ I've actually noticed a similar effect in some old Darlton wingtips pics as well. C&J def. often uses a lighter piece of shell on the vamp piece.

    IE

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  4. huskyzealot

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    When was your order placed? I ordered at 8:00am ET today, yet to receive such an email...but will feel a lot better when I get a shipping confirmation.
     
  5. randomkoreandude

    randomkoreandude Senior member

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    the PTB is not available online right?
     
  6. sm31

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    Right.
     
  7. pdotjdot

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    does anyone have a lead on a size 9 or 9.5 for the lindrick boot??
     
  8. bellyhungry

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    Swansea UK 9.5E and Marlow US10D (received today.)

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  9. kmdsimpson

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    I got mine in store. I feel lucky to have found them, which is ironic, because I wanted the wingtips. Now I'm glad I ran into these.
     
  10. rennavate

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    Is the Marlow basically the Swansea?

    I thought the Darlton was basically the Pembroke, too? But now the Darlton is only available offline?
     
  11. g.michael

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    I'll let you know when i get my tassels in a few days. my brannock is 11 but with a skinny foot. The 10's in all 3 (wings, ptb, pennies) work for me but the pennies are a little short--they feel great sockless but wearing socks with them leave my toes a little cramped. However, zero heel slippage due to the snugness. The last on the tassels looks like it migh be the C&J 72--diff than the other 3 so it will be interesting to see if they work.
     
  12. g.michael

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    ^ i forgot to mention that if you get slippage with the tassels, but not the pennies, this would indicate a last that is sized more like the wings/ptb (e.g. bigger) , which may not work for the loafers. the sole is so thick that break-in takes quite awhile so you may have the problem for quite a while, maybe always in that shoe.
     
  13. randomkoreandude

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    thanks for the reply

    i just assumed that all the marlows were on the same last. man i may need to go down a full size like you or just wear with inserts

    please post your thoughts when they arrive!
     
  14. Manfred Freitag

    Manfred Freitag Well-Known Member

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    Got my Lindricks. They are beautiful. The right tongue is (was) stitched to the inside of the boot about halfway down and when I went to pull the tongue back to slide in my foot, I tore the stitch and put a slight tear / hole in the tongue. Invisible when the boot is laced but I cannot believe I mutilated an expensive new boot within 4 seconds of removing it from the box. A new personal worst! My mother was right, alcoholics do NOT deserve nice things!
     
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  15. Alcibiades

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    Hmm, I may have missed out this round. Headed to the Mansion tomorrow; if that doesn't work, Soho it is.
     
  16. bellyhungry

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    Look at it this way, using C&J as the baseline:

    The Marlow wingtip is: Pembroke 325 last + upper design and color scheme of Swansea + Cordovan leather upper + Double leather sole.
     
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    ^ spoke with a RL cs rep and he said RL doesn't have any new orders of the penny or tassel coming in. If you want either, in your size, call your local rl store. I think I might hit up my local rl and buy up their stock.
     
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    So what did they end up cancelling on you and when was the order placed?
     
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    I thought they didn't fit you? I thought I got a good deal when I bought them at 50% off :fu:
     
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    They were purchases at 8:21. Size 11.5 penny and size 11.5 tassel. At 11:02, I got the email from RL. I also picked up the 12 but I haven't received the shipping confirmation even though I paid an extra $20 for two day shipping.

    Forex, when did you buy them? I purchased a pair earlier this week and they gave me the $100 price adjustment
     

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