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Crockett & Jones for Ralph Lauren Cordovan (Marlow, Darlton, Gifford, Garran, Lindrick, McCallum, Rh

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by NAMOR, Oct 1, 2011.

  1. zippyh

    zippyh Senior member

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  2. ktown

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    What is the consensus on sizing for the Lindricks? I read several pages of this thread and it seems like I should get either US TTS or US - 0.5. For reference I wear:

    AE Park Ave - 8D US - Good fit
    Meermin Oxford Brogue Olfe Last - 7UK - Good fit
    Meermin Double Monk Hiro Last - 7UK - Ok fit, some heel slippage but that might be due to poor quality control rather than last fit
     
  3. dddrees

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    It really just depends on your feet.

    I wear a TTS, but others wear .5 smaller.

    I personally ordered both sizes and just returned the one that didn't work.
     
  4. katch

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    1/2 size smaller fo sho.
     
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    The thing is I've found a TTS pair for a decent price but I believe the seller won't accept returns. I've tried calling a local store and they said they didn't have any.
     
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    I understand, but it really will just depend on your foot in regards to which size will work best for you.


    Hopefully RL will have another shipment of these boots soon.
     
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  7. Omar1223

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    you could just buy and resell, it will be a hassle but you could easily sell these boots quickly on the forum here.
     
  8. BeSpiffington

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    RL Marlow PTB argyles OTC today.[​IMG]
     
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  9. ktown

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    Today I stopped by the Beverly Hills RL store to try on some shoes since I don't have experience with RL/C&J sizing. I am looking to get the Lindrick boots some time this year but they didn't have any in stock as expected. I did get to try on the Marlow. First off I hadn't seen cordovan shoes in person until today and I can now see why these are called gunboats. These things were built like tanks! The leather was very thick and I did get that "cheap shoe" vibe from them at first glance. The soles are really thick on these too. I know it takes time for cordovan shoes to develop a nice patina and they look better with age. But I just couldn't help but think at first that these just didn't look so great. But people on this forum usually know what they're talking about so I will still give the cordovan Lindricks a try. The shoes seemed to not have a nice polish unlike many of the shoes I've seen posted by forumites.

    Now, as far as sizing goes, I tried on the wingtip Marlow in 8D US/7.5 UK and the PTB Marlow in 7.5D US/7 UK. I am normally an 8D US and 7 UK. I thought the 8D Marlow was a bit roomy. I didn't walk around but just flexed my foot a bit while standing and I was getting heel slippage. The 7.5D fit better overall I think. It's hard to judge how a shoe will really fit from just 10-15 minutes at a store.

    My questions for you guys are:

    1. In the pics below, are the blucher flaps (sorry for incorrect terminology) too close for the wingtips? This was the larger size and I feel like they shouldn't be so close together. The PTB's look about right to me in terms of the closeness of the flaps.

    2. How are the Marlows sized in relation to the Lindricks? I think I should go with the 7.5D/7UK. This would put me in the group that sizes down half.

    3. Is cordovan all that? I've seen Spoo say they are "alpha as fuck." [​IMG]

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  10. BeSpiffington

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    ktown, how did you like the Beverly Hills RL store? I've heard it's very nice. As far as shell cordovan goes I assure you that shoes made from this leather are quite nice and last a very long time. I wear a half size down from my tts of 11.5 in the Marlows. It's just a place to start when sizing new shoes. Either the PTB's or the wingtips would be a great first buy.
     
  11. ktown

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    The BH store was very nice. It didn't look like a typical clothing store to me. It looked like a really nice house inside if that makes sense. There was wood furnishing everywhere. To use the bathroom, you have to go up a staircase that is in the middle of the store (again, looked like a staircase you'd see in a house) and upstairs had a bunch of houseware stuff but the vibe again was like a place to lounge around at a nice home. It's located on Rodeo Drive with a bunch of high end stores all around.

    There was no real area that I could see with shoes laid out like most stores would have. I asked an SA for the Marlows and he walked over to this large wooden cabinet and opened it up to get the shoes. They weren't on display anywhere. Inside the cabinet, they had a bunch of sizes of various shoes.

    It was a really quick trip for me; I just wanted to check sizing on the Marlow. But if you're ever in the area you should check it out. Luckily even though it's Memorial Day weekend, I got a parking spot right in front of the store with 30 minutes on the meter already so I didn't have to pay to park.
     
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    ktown, I know what you mean about the old housey feel of the RL stores. Same vibe in Chicago, and especially their NYC Madison ave. mansion mens flagship store. Gotta say though both shoes look fantastic on you.
     
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    I think those pics have confirmed that I will have to bite the bullet and buy the wingtips and ptb.
     
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  14. dddrees

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    I have both the LIndrick and the Marlow Wingtip. I wear the same size in both pairs. For me I had to go with TTS, and this worked best for me on both the shoe and boot.
     
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  15. cbfn

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    Received new RL Lindricks yesterday, here they are side-by-side with a year old Marlows. I can't lie, the GF had to fight for a place in bed last night. My dachs loved them as well, come home from his personal hunting trip just for this pic.

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  16. Gerry Nelson

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    Congratulations, man!!! Hope you'll enjoy them for many years to come.
     
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    No doubt I will, these are built like tanks.
     
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    The wingtip started from the same colour of Lindrick?
     
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    Wear in good health. It's interesting that to me, the Lindrick looks taller than all my Alden boots; however, the difference is minimal. The visual effect appears to be the last shape and how the vamp curves up.
     
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    A bit lighter, but it has certainly increased, the picture is even taking after applying some dark brown cordovan cream and wax.


    I absolutely love the design of the Lindrick, I have been looking at it for some years, and went mental when I finally found some.
     

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