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Crockett & Jones for Ralph Lauren Cordovan (Marlow, Darlton, Gifford, Garran, Lindrick, McCallum, Rh

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by NAMOR, Oct 1, 2011.

  1. dddrees

    dddrees Senior member

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    Joseph A Banks is currently selling their shoe trees for 1/2 off or $12.50 a pair. Not as good as 3 for 1, but still a good deal if your in need of some shoe trees. They're definitely better than those being which Nordstroms Rack sells at $11.00 a pair.
     
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  2. othertravel

    othertravel Senior member

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    Century 21 has shoes trees at 12.99.
     
  3. phototristan

    phototristan Senior member

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    Links help:

    http://www.josbank.com/menswear/shop/Product_11001_10050_101593

    and

    http://www.c21stores.com/flash-product-holder/woodlore-cedar-shoe-trees
     
  4. BeSpiffington

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    Your Marlows look outstanding sir! Not at all like the new pair I just got. I believe I read somewhere on this thread that C&J's come with a lot of wax on them from the factory. Might using some Saphir Reno and brushing help to reveal more of the underlying shell while I wait for some Venetian shoe cream?
     
  5. dddrees

    dddrees Senior member

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    I've used about three applications of Saphir Reno so far on my Lindricks and they look a bit better to me.
     
  6. phototristan

    phototristan Senior member

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    Note that Venetian Shoe Cream leaves more shine than Saphir.
     
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  7. dddrees

    dddrees Senior member

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    But isn't Venetian Shoe Cream just a neutral shoe cream?
     
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    Countingsheep Senior member

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    Thank you...

    I won't pretend to be an expert here but I'll bet a pretty penny that Reno will not hurt your shoes. I'm sure someone else can chime in here and help out... EDIT: there they are ^

    Most of all, get out and wear the things :slayer:
     
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  9. phototristan

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    Depends on what your definition of a 'neutral shoe cream' is. Venetian is made from fine oils, cleaning agents and waxes. Saphir probably is too. They are both conditioners.
     
  10. dddrees

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    Saphir actually states it's a cleaner and conditioner, but Venetian only states that it is a shoe cream on the container.
     
  11. ChiliPalmer

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    I feel like Venetian stripped the oils out of my 975's. Granted, it seems to have imparted a serious (and permanent) shine to the shoes, but there no longer is any bloom on the surface of the shell if I go a long time without wearing them. The only thing I've ever used on my Marlow's is Saphir Renovateur. If I go a few weeks without wearing them, when I come back there is bloom on the surface of the shell.
     
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    That's interesting. Wish I had thought to check on that before I get rid of my Ultras.
     
  15. phototristan

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    I must have missed the clean part.

    Thanks for pointing that out.

    Cheers,

    Dan
     
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    Posted earlier today on a thread what I'm pretty sure is in VSC, http://www.styleforum.net/t/333578/ingredients-in-venetian-shoe-cream/15#post_6242967

    I use both VSC and reno on my shell. Saphir says to use their Cordovan specific products on shell because it does not contain turpentine, and that turpentine is bad for shell. But anyone that has used VSC and does any woodworking knows that VSC smells very strongly of turpentine, and as mentioned Nick Horween recommends VSC for shell. Reno contains turpentine so... Stripping off the excess cream on shell is important to get a good shine IME. I have reached the point where I use Renomat on most of my new shell that has cream on them to strip them clean and use the Mac method.

    I am a 10D in AE 1 and 5 last, 9.5 on Alden Barrie and went with the 9.5D in Marlow. I had to stretch the left shoe because of tension along the base of the little toe. I have never had luck with European sizing, and find the Marlow's typical of that. Not a perfect fit but it works.

    For trees I find that the Epic Woodlore fill the high vamp of the Marlow perfectly.

    Good looking shoe no matter how you look at it, though fit is number one priority to me. Wore them today, I haven't done anything to them except brushing and Reno. At least so far:
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  18. phototristan

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    I don't know for sure but it seems like Reno has more turpentine, because when using it more dye seems to come off onto your towel. People don't smell it as much because Reno is actually scented with perfume.
     
  19. katch

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    Please tell me that the Lindricks can be warn in the summer and with a suit...
     
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    No, you can't wear Lindricks in the summer, let alone with a suit. Unless you are wearing a flannel or tweed suit.
     

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