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Crockett & Jones for Ralph Lauren Cordovan (Marlow, Darlton, Gifford, Garran, Lindrick, McCallum, Rh

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by NAMOR, Oct 1, 2011.

  1. mdao63

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    RL Peters model
     
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    I've seen these but the buckle just seems too big in proportion to the rest of the shoe; otherwise, trust me, I'd own them already. Today: [​IMG]
     
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    Deleted - Posted in the wrong thread :)
     
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    Lindrickizzzy comparison

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    Carmina Adelaide in Cognac (Alcudia), Crockett & Jones Lindrick in Brown Shell (325), Alden Indy in Cigar Shell (Trubalance) and Alfred Sargent Miller Boot in Cognac Shell (724)

    Alcudia is pretty damn narrow. I went down 1 size in the Alcudia but if I had to do it again I would only size down 1/2 size. For reference, Carmina is a size UK11, Lindrick is size us11.5, Indy is size us11.5, AS UK11
     
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    daaaawwwwg, negotiate a cheaper price with the seller, put that money towards a sleeker buckle. baaaam
     
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    Put mine on the other day promptly took off as it was so dry and I'm too lazy to Reno anything let alone brush more than 5 seconds

    Just realize I never responded you book trip yet?
     
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    Currently having that issue on a new pair of Burgundy boots. One shoe is significantly lighter than the other. Also, the dye seems blotchy in the light on the cap toe. Not sure if I should keep and TRY to fix or return and lose out some good pricing since another size isnt in stock.
     
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    no worries

    with regard to the marlows, the left shoes is always dry. its also much darker. the right one is shiny and supple and more golden, than brown
     
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    Namor, have you ever had any success evening out shell colors in the past? Or they always go back to how you pretty much received them? These BB Peal Caps are making it difficult for me.
     
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    havent really tried. i have pairs with subtle differences but it doesnt bother me; just adds character to the shoes imo. i once had to return a pair of lindricks where one vamp was much lighter so i exchanged them. fortunately, RL had an available pair and the replacement pair was a 10/10. if the shoes are new, I would recommend exchanging them.

    i know that increased exposure to light (along with heat, perhaps) can lighten a shoe. I might leave the darker shoe out on the sun for hours a day for several weeks and then report back.

    to darken, saphir cordovan paste wax in brown along with alden's cigar paste wax darkens lighter shell cordovan colors. how much and is it permanent i dont know but the change is noticeable immediately after an application of paste and an accompanying brush
     
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    whats up with the bb peal boots? if new, exchange them. if used, try one of the above with an appropriate color.
     
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    The differences is part of the nature if shell. Unless it's REALLY dark, there are going to be some variations.
     
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    I can be picky, but its about 2-3 shades lighter on the vamp, almost all the way around on one boot. Plus the cap toe dye looks blotchy in the light, not sure if that evens out with time/wear. It's my first C&J related product, all my AE and Aldens have come free from blemishes, whereas this leather had nicks, scratches, etc. It's unworn, they just dont have anymore in my size till who knows when, and I miss out on a good price.
     
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    If one shoe is darker in homogeneous way then the other probably the sun method suggeste by Namor is the best choice.
    the big problem is when the difference is in panels of a single shoes, in this case I would return/exchange the shoes if possible.
     
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    Sorry to hear that this turned out less than ideal for you. However I would think there would be a better than average chance they will restock eventually, and they will probably have another sale like they have already done more than once previously. Prices still may go up a bit, but better to get something your happy with, than something you'll regret keeping.


    Either way, I hope everything works out for you in the long run.
     
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    I will have to repeat myself. C&j shell always have this problem. Even when new if no issue they will develop different shades sooner or later. And yes they will develop different shades in same shoes in different panel. What I think the issue is c&j don't use a strong finish on their shell like alden or ae does. Anyway you will get over it , like me.
     

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