Crockett and Jones Last fittings questions and HELP please

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  1. MGD83

    MGD83 Senior member

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    Hello all,

    I am new to the forum and recently have ordered 3 pairs of shoes from Edwards of Manchester. I chose all Crockett and Jones models and now, after reading a bunch of different responses and inquires on these same shoes, I am starting to doubt my purchases. I am worried I have made some impulse buys without doing the proper research on the fittings.

    So, If anybody is out there who can help me out, here are the details of the shoes ordered:

    C&J Tetbury and Merton on the 348 Last
    C&J Weymouth on the 337 Last

    I usually buy Italian shoes and take a safe size 44D, which translates to a US 11 or so. My only pair of American shoes, and I assume that these would be best to compare, are my Allen Edmonds Neumoks, made on the 5-65 Last (same as the famous Park Avenue model). My Neumok size is a 10 1/2 D, and they do fit well being just a tad snug. In the elongated Allen Edmonds 3-333 Last Larchmont Model, I believe I am a size 11D.

    I've measured my feet length at around 27.8cm with socks on. widest point of my foot measures just over 10cm. Circumference of my foot is about 26.6cm.

    Hopefully someone is out there who can help me out with this before I spend a crap load of money in shipping returns. Any help is appreciated, and sorry to turn this into a self help forum, I'm not sure if that is the point of it.

    Regards,

    M
     




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    MGD83 Senior member

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    Whoops, looks like I forgot to mention that part.

    All were ordered in a size 10UK based on the advice of the sales people. By email of course.
     


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    Don't use the Neumoks as a guide. They are unlined, so might be a bit bigger than other 5-last shoes.
     


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    Interesting, I didn't think of that. So basically you think a different model in the same last would probably be a half size larger?
     


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    Still, anybody have any experience with these particular shoe sizes? Or is anybody my measurement size?
     


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    10UK sounds about right.
    Or as close as you're going to get sizing by proxy over the interwebs.
     


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    Maybe not a full half size, but the sizing is definitely different. I would rely more on the sizes of any calf shoes you own
     


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    You see, the problem with living in Toronto, Canada is that we don't have access to any great shoe stores. We have a few Brooks Brothers scattered around the city but I dont think there shoes can be used as an accurate guide, though I do hear that C&J makes shoes for them.

    So, do to this I have to rely strictly on what I read here and communication through emails.

    It sucks to buy clothes or shoes in Canada, plain and simple.

    Any other advice on my dilemma? Anybody have a pair of those in that size that can be measured for the INSIDE dimension of the shoes? I'm not even sure if these 2 differnt last shapes will fit the same. Some people say yes and some say no.
     


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    Would be nice to have a UK shoe or other American shoe brand to compare it to. All of my shoes are either european fashion shoes or running shoes. The best pair of calf shoes I currently have are size 44 black Doucal bluchers and a size 44 Silvano Sassetti cap toe from Nordstrom in Miami Florida.
     


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    Most of my calf shoes are Italian fashion brands and I don't think they'd be comparable.
    I do have some Silvano Sassetti cap toes and some Doucal bluchers. Both size 44D euro.

    See the truth is buying shoes in Toronto Canada is crap. We have a Brooks Brothers where they sell some English shoes apparently made by C&J. Other then that there isn't a whole lot of choices. Clothing too for that matter.

    Hence, myself and a lot of others are stuck ordering online and gambling on sizes.

    If anybody has any of these last shapes in there possession and can measure the inside of there size 10UK, that would probably be helpful.

    Thanks for all the help so far, sorry if this thread is becoming long winded.

    M
     


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