Crockett and Jones fit last 341 vs 348

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  1. JeffsWood

    JeffsWood Senior member

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    Can anyone advise on the difference in fit between the C & J's 341 and 348 last.

    My foot fits a 10.5 b or c in Allen Edmonds but is a 9E in the 341 last in Crockett and Jones. I am wondering if the 348 last is narrow enough that I should buy a 9.5E in it.
     


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    I find that the 348 is a little narrower in the toebox than the 341.
     


  3. JeffsWood

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    I find that the 348 is a little narrower in the toebox than the 341.

    a half size?
     


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    Christofuh Senior member

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    I've got a standard D-width foot.
    Last 341- fits after 1 hour break-in
    Last 348 - NO WAY, JOSE [​IMG]
     


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    a half size?

    That would depend on the shape of your foot. [​IMG]

    That said, if it were me, I would size up a half-size. But YMMV, and my feet are funny.
     


  6. JeffsWood

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    That would depend on the shape of your foot. [​IMG]

    That said, if it were me, I would size up a half-size. But YMMV, and my feet are funny.


    Thanks I had to return a pair of shoes on the 341 last in size 9.5 as they were 1/2 size too big. I in the process of decided if I want the same shoes in a 9 (I think should fit well) or try another last.
     


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    Thanks I had to return a pair of shoes on the 341 last in size 9.5 as they were 1/2 size too big. I in the process of decided if I want the same shoes in a 9 (I think should fit well) or try another last.

    If I were you, I would try the same shoes in a 9 (a safer bet). You might end up paying another expensive lesson if trying another last.
     


  8. Smahatma

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    8C in AE sizing, went down to 6.5E for the C&J 348
     


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    348 are longer than the 341
     


  10. Haemus

    Haemus Well-Known Member

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    Yes, 348 compared to 341 is about 6mm longer (4/16). For the average feet RTW benchgrades coming mostly in E (UK normal) fitting are running true to size, at least in my experience.
    I'd say same size in both lasts should be fine for average feet, though former would be somewhat longer than latter.
     


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    I wear my Cottesmores (341) in 10.5 uk, am thinking of gettIng the Tetbury's (348), should I maintain my size?
     


  12. Gdot

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    The 341 can be just a tiny bit narrower at the toe width than the 348. Due to the more rounded configuration of the 341 and it's overall shorter length. I have pairs in both lasts and despite this minor difference find that both fit me well in the same size. The slightly tight toe on the 341 eased up quickly with a few wearings.
     


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    Gdot,
    Thank you for the reply.
    So, you would advice the Tetbury's in 10.5 as well, yes? Not an 11?
     


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    Gdot Senior member

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    Yes. Of course every foot is different. Unless your foot is very long though I would not size up from the 341 to the 348.
     


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    I did a comparison of an AE shoe in 10.5B (US size) on the 0-Last to a C&J on the 348-last in 8.5E (UK size) and found the C&J to be very similar in width, but a bit smaller in length. Therefore, I would expect a 9.5E (UK size) C&J on 348 to be too big for you.
     


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