Croc Wallet

[Ebitdaddy]

Any recommendations? What kind of price range am I looking at?

 

[UNOAIMX]

There is a croc wallet in buy and sell a few weeks ago, it was home/hand made by a forum member, it was like 160 dollars. If you buy from a retailer looking at 500 +

 

[haloitsme]

Depends on quality, brand , cut , finish , etc.
Prices, 80-5000€ or above.

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I have a kiton wallet, retail 5000€, can let it go for around 650-700€ net. Also some cheap croc wallets (black), around 80-120€/pcs

 

[shackletonian]

I've got a few of them. I recently got a credit card holder from John Allen Woodward, which was really stunning, and the quality of the skin is top notch, as is the craftsmanship (and decisions about sizing/spacing to keep a good balance of snugness and flex).

I also recently got a long wallet by Dreadnought leather, whose owner is on this site (and sells, too). It was a really supple and well-constructed work, and I've actually made it my day-in-day-out wallet during the work week.

 

[dieworkwear]

Chester Mox makes really nice ones, and often at a price that's less than ready-to-made luxury brands. For one, they saddle stitch everything, which means it's completely handsewn. Most brands will use a machine stitch because it's cheaper and faster. A handsewn seam is tighter and stronger than a machine sewn one, but more importantly, it's cleaner looking. Here's an example of a machine-sewn seam versus a handsewn one. Machine-sewn on the left; handsewn on the right.

They also cut from the belly of the hide, rather than the flanks. Many companies, including high-end ones, will cut from the flanks for men's accessories, then save the belly for things such as women's purses (which command more money). By cutting from the belly, you get cleaner looking scales. On the cheaper black wallets above, you can see how the scales are a bit crinkly, especially between the scale. IMO, cleaner scales look better, but since the space on this hide goes for a premium, so do the resulting goods.

The scales can also be placed such that you get a nice transition. This is an eyewear sleeve I bought from them a while ago. The bottom of the case transitions into smaller scales for visual effect, but you could ask for clean belly scales all around, depending on your design.

And this is a custom wallet I had them make from navy croc. Inside is lined with grey goat leather

Here's the "Himalayan" croc popular with women who shop at Hermes.

Most of their small, croc accessories are about $1,000-ish. Which isn't inexpensive, but it's a lot cheaper than brands such as Kiton, and IMO way better in quality. Even less than what Brooks Brothers and Ralph Lauren charge. I used to live in Moscow, and I remember seeing these really nice croc items there with super clean scales. But for some reason, you rarely see that in the US or Western Europe, outside of high-end leather purses at Hermes. The thing to really avoid, however, is caiman, which is ... not good. If you're getting something for not a lot of money, it's almost certainly made from caiman.

 

[bdavro23]

Chester Mox makes really nice ones, and often at a price that's less than ready-to-made luxury brands. For one, they saddle stitch everything, which means it's completely handsewn. Most brands will use a machine stitch because it's cheaper and faster. A handsewn seam is tighter and stronger than a machine sewn one, but more importantly, it's cleaner looking. Here's an example of a machine-sewn seam versus a handsewn one. Machine-sewn on the left; handsewn on the right.


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They also cut from the belly of the hide, rather than the flanks. Many companies, including high-end ones, will cut from the flanks for men's accessories, then save the belly for things such as women's purses (which command more money). By cutting from the belly, you get cleaner looking scales. On the cheaper black wallets above, you can see how the scales are a bit crinkly, especially between the scale. IMO, cleaner scales look better, but since the space on this hide goes for a premium, so do the resulting goods.


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The scales can also be placed such that you get a nice transition. This is an eyewear sleeve I bought from them a while ago. The bottom of the case transitions into smaller scales for visual effect, but you could ask for clean belly scales all around, depending on your design.


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And this is a custom wallet I had them make from navy croc. Inside is lined with grey goat leather

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Here's the "Himalayan" croc popular with women who shop at Hermes.


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Most of their small, croc accessories are about $1,000-ish. Which isn't inexpensive, but it's a lot cheaper than brands such as Kiton, and IMO way better in quality. Even less than what Brooks Brothers and Ralph Lauren charge. I used to live in Moscow, and I remember seeing these really nice croc items there with super clean scales. But for some reason, you rarely see that in the US or Western Europe, outside of high-end leather purses at Hermes. The thing to really avoid, however, is caiman, which is ... not good. If you're getting something for not a lot of money, it's almost certainly made from caiman.

Posts like this are why I come to the forum. I am not remotely in the market for anything croc at the moment, but now I know a couple of things to look for if/ when I am. Thanks for sharing!

 

[haloitsme]

Chester Mox makes really nice ones, and often at a price that's less than ready-to-made luxury brands. For one, they saddle stitch everything, which means it's completely handsewn. Most brands will use a machine stitch because it's cheaper and faster. A handsewn seam is tighter and stronger than a machine sewn one, but more importantly, it's cleaner looking. Here's an example of a machine-sewn seam versus a handsewn one. Machine-sewn on the left; handsewn on the right.


View attachment 1199672


They also cut from the belly of the hide, rather than the flanks. Many companies, including high-end ones, will cut from the flanks for men's accessories, then save the belly for things such as women's purses (which command more money). By cutting from the belly, you get cleaner looking scales. On the cheaper black wallets above, you can see how the scales are a bit crinkly, especially between the scale. IMO, cleaner scales look better, but since the space on this hide goes for a premium, so do the resulting goods.


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The scales can also be placed such that you get a nice transition. This is an eyewear sleeve I bought from them a while ago. The bottom of the case transitions into smaller scales for visual effect, but you could ask for clean belly scales all around, depending on your design.


View attachment 1199670


And this is a custom wallet I had them make from navy croc. Inside is lined with grey goat leather

View attachment 1199671

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Here's the "Himalayan" croc popular with women who shop at Hermes.


View attachment 1199674


Most of their small, croc accessories are about $1,000-ish. Which isn't inexpensive, but it's a lot cheaper than brands such as Kiton, and IMO way better in quality. Even less than what Brooks Brothers and Ralph Lauren charge. I used to live in Moscow, and I remember seeing these really nice croc items there with super clean scales. But for some reason, you rarely see that in the US or Western Europe, outside of high-end leather purses at Hermes. The thing to really avoid, however, is caiman, which is ... not good. If you're getting something for not a lot of money, it's almost certainly made from caiman.

You are right, you get what you pay for.
The cheap croc I posted are not really good but for 80€ who cares...

The thing with the super nice pores is true, because in Russia the market is better and also Asia. I have seen topnotch croc exporter their, what you can’t even find in Paris. But it was a jacket running for 145.000€ ...
Also look st the Burberry croc Card holder, they Charger 600€ for that. I usually charged or that kind of Accessoire only 150.
I think for 150 it’s ok, but not for 600€. Same as the Kiton, 650€ is ok, but not 5000€
Best