I recently received my third Jantzen. The first two times, I got very valuable advice (see my second thread here : http://www.styleforum.net/showthread...hlight=jantzen; first one was lost in the crash). This should be my last request for advice... You can click on the photos to see them full scale. 1/ Turnaround time The first shirt was ordered on the 11th of November 2005, order renewed on the 12th of December (I called and they had lost my order), received 30th of December. The second shirt was ordered on the 14th of February 2006, received at the end of March. The third shirt was ordered on the 8th of May 2006, I called on the 12th of July to learn that it was delayed due to the fabric not being available - I sent another choice of fabric and received the shirt about one month later. 2/ My first shirt Here are a few photos of my first shirt after having been laundered twice: Fabric was JKT #0027, Blue Herringbone with Black Stitched Stripes, 110's, 2 Ply, 100% Italian Cotton, which is often acclaimed here, and it was gorgeous. No big problems with that shirt apart from the sleeves (much too short). My changes after that were : take the shoulders in a tad lengthen the sleeves tighten the waist (an unfortunate choice it turns out) widen the hips 3/ My second order Here's my second Jantzen photographed (again, after having been laundered twice): That second offering actually felt worse than the first (in part due to the fabric, no doubt). Much too tight. My main changes after that were : lengthen the sleeves still widen the chest, waist and hips and collar 4/ My third order Here's the actual order : Fabric was JKT #0084, Pink 1 cm Herringbone, 100's, 2 Ply, 100% Italian Cotton. I loved it. And here are some photos. I apologize for their poor quality. I had problems with my camera after the first shot. The shirt has been laundered once before the photos were taken. 5/ Further advice I think I have more or less got it now. I might have overdone it with the sleeves, maybe one inch less was enough (as I had in my second order; I changed it because it did not show cuff with some of my longer jackets as you can see from the photos). What do you guys think? What about the shoulders?